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**Smittoh** · 09-09-2012, 10:30 PM

Nothing in those images says they should copy Apple. In fact it shows critique of issues with their OS; something which happens in any brainstorming and feedback sessions.

Until you see the result of the 'brainstorming', where it's identical in shape, size and position to the iPhone. But when people see that, they say "that's obvious, how can you patent a rectangle". The problem with most of the arguments against Apple in this case (including the one liners in this thread) is that they're looking at one segment of the argument and attacking it, rather than the front to back process. You dismissed the first part, others dismissed the second. When you put these things together, it becomes clearer.

First image probably shouldn't even have left beta with its obvious flaws. I'm surprised Apple didn't say Android copied the keypad. They're only obvious when you see how much better it can be, and the fact is it DID leave beta and it even ended up on the market in people's hands. The reality is that many companies (like Samsung) don't agonize for years over tiny seemingly innocuous design decisions. Companies like Apple and many others actually, do spend years on design. That's why the get sniffy when the outcome of that gets ripped off. Apple isn't some golden tit to line the pockets of companies that hire designers from schools that taught kids to learn things by rote, rather than encouraging their kids to think for themselves.

Second image also shows critique of their OS; the fact they show Apple's is because they've done it well with a distinguished end call button. Again, when you see the finished result, pixel for pixel the same as the iPhone; some people would say that's copying.

I don't know if you've ever worked in design projects (and I haven't) but the obvious is you will go into a meeting where you will go "why is this product selling so well?". I've helped design GUIs, more based on workflow than aesthetics, but actually the first question should never be "what are they doing" it should be "what do we want to do". It's that which separates Apple from the other electronics companies trying to do the same things, and what makes people prefer their products to other products.

09-09-2012, 10:30 PM	#23
Smittoh Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 627 Senior Member	Nothing in those images says they should copy Apple. In fact it shows critique of issues with their OS; something which happens in any brainstorming and feedback sessions. Until you see the result of the 'brainstorming', where it's identical in shape, size and position to the iPhone. But when people see that, they say "that's obvious, how can you patent a rectangle". The problem with most of the arguments against Apple in this case (including the one liners in this thread) is that they're looking at one segment of the argument and attacking it, rather than the front to back process. You dismissed the first part, others dismissed the second. When you put these things together, it becomes clearer. First image probably shouldn't even have left beta with its obvious flaws. I'm surprised Apple didn't say Android copied the keypad. They're only obvious when you see how much better it can be, and the fact is it DID leave beta and it even ended up on the market in people's hands. The reality is that many companies (like Samsung) don't agonize for years over tiny seemingly innocuous design decisions. Companies like Apple and many others actually, do spend years on design. That's why the get sniffy when the outcome of that gets ripped off. Apple isn't some golden tit to line the pockets of companies that hire designers from schools that taught kids to learn things by rote, rather than encouraging their kids to think for themselves. Second image also shows critique of their OS; the fact they show Apple's is because they've done it well with a distinguished end call button. Again, when you see the finished result, pixel for pixel the same as the iPhone; some people would say that's copying. I don't know if you've ever worked in design projects (and I haven't) but the obvious is you will go into a meeting where you will go "why is this product selling so well?". I've helped design GUIs, more based on workflow than aesthetics, but actually the first question should never be "what are they doing" it should be "what do we want to do". It's that which separates Apple from the other electronics companies trying to do the same things, and what makes people prefer their products to other products.
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