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Interesting AIM conversation
timsk1577 (1:03:52 PM): well i have been posting for a while
Veilmask999 (1:03:52 PM): just asking
timsk1577 (1:04:20 PM): lots of ppl come asking about wierd stuff and not about kendo so i start posting wierd stuff too
Veilmask999 (1:04:54 PM): lol, well should be more room for discussing other sword arts, especially those which kendo was derived from, shame there is not.
timsk1577 (1:06:00 PM): well i guess there are a lot of ppl. posting this is rurouni kenshin and how does this relate to last samurai have been posting there so its been wierd
Veilmask999 (1:06:20 PM): oi vei
Veilmask999 (1:06:45 PM): Please, I have just discoverd this is anime stuff, this annoys me a little, but most here are way to mean to these folks, who are mostly kids
timsk1577 (1:07:37 PM): the thing is. I like watching anime. I watch it more than the average person. But there is a defined line between reality and fantasy
Veilmask999 (1:07:50 PM): thats for sure
timsk1577 (1:07:51 PM): some ppl have seemed to cross this line
Veilmask999 (1:08:13 PM): Funny thing though, I was practicing reverse grip style long befoe I ever saw any Zato ichi movie, lol
Veilmask999 (1:09:01 PM): Doing in one handed like in the movie, not so good except for quikc blocks and stabs, takes two hands to make it work well, or forearms of a java man, and his two
brothers
timsk1577 (1:09:19 PM): well the thing is. don't learn kendo from the movies
Veilmask999 (1:09:25 PM): never did
Veilmask999 (1:09:39 PM): such styles did exist, learned them along with everything else
timsk1577 (1:09:41 PM): learn it from ppl who actually teach and do. thats all
Veilmask999 (1:10:03 PM): underhand is another way, thats all, always keep an open mind, thats my motto
timsk1577 (1:10:27 PM): yes.. but kendo is different from kenjutsu and iai.
Veilmask999 (1:10:41 PM): oh yes, its not nearly as good for practical real use
timsk1577 (1:10:46 PM): i keep an open mind but within the kendo realm.
Veilmask999 (1:10:47 PM): but it is what it is
Veilmask999 (1:10:55 PM): lol
Veilmask999 (1:11:07 PM): should broaden your horizon, sticking to one class or style, not good, not wise
Veilmask999 (1:11:25 PM): I've studied a dozen styles and then some, gotta be open
timsk1577 (1:11:55 PM): ya. ppl who learn different "styles" of martial arts, etc that start kendo end up with wierd kendo.
timsk1577 (1:12:01 PM): Funny footwork, etc
Veilmask999 (1:12:24 PM): I beat Kendo guys all the time, they dont know what to do without the armor and with a heavy boken it seems, *shrug*
Veilmask999 (1:12:28 PM): Proper footwork
Veilmask999 (1:12:32 PM): not funny
Veilmask999 (1:12:40 PM): kendo is the funny stuff
Veilmask999 (1:12:44 PM): on the toes, oi
Veilmask999 (1:12:54 PM): but its a sport
Veilmask999 (1:13:02 PM): so gotta be geared towards that aspect I guess
timsk1577 (1:13:09 PM): well its not a sport.. thats the thing
Veilmask999 (1:13:15 PM): yes it is
timsk1577 (1:13:23 PM): if it were a sport then youd see it on ESPN
Veilmask999 (1:13:24 PM): whoeever told you it wasnt lied
timsk1577 (1:13:31 PM): lemme see.. my sensei
Veilmask999 (1:13:37 PM): lol no, who would watch, they already have olmpic fencing
Veilmask999 (1:13:45 PM): olympic
Veilmask999 (1:13:51 PM): which is a sport, but yours is not, umm, ok
timsk1577 (1:13:55 PM): ya, but i think kendo is more fun
Veilmask999 (1:14:02 PM): that dont make it any less of a sport
timsk1577 (1:14:11 PM): but it does have a martial arts aspect
Veilmask999 (1:14:14 PM): logic, not feelings should dictate reasoning
timsk1577 (1:14:17 PM): so how long have you practiced
timsk1577 (1:14:18 PM): ?
Veilmask999 (1:14:20 PM): so does fnecing, lol
Veilmask999 (1:14:30 PM): Practiced swordwork, since I was 8
timsk1577 (1:14:37 PM): well thats different
Veilmask999 (1:14:48 PM): not really, well for here yeah
Veilmask999 (1:15:11 PM): Good to start young I think
timsk1577 (1:15:15 PM): well kendo footwork and "swordwork" footwork atre diff
Veilmask999 (1:15:21 PM): depends on the youngster though
timsk1577 (1:15:41 PM): you can see the debate on kendo being a sport or not on the forums if you wish
timsk1577 (1:15:46 PM): but most ppl agree that it is not a sport
Veilmask999 (1:15:56 PM): Yep, in sword work footwork is walk as you normally would, lots of over complication in sports like kendo, you could really polish up your technique by studying other
things
Veilmask999 (1:16:20 PM): Most of those peole are Kendoists, who take it too seriously, sorry, it is a sport, points, no risk, armor, sound familiar, umm, football
Veilmask999 (1:16:29 PM): Sport
Veilmask999 (1:16:36 PM): logic, reason, use them ;-)
timsk1577 (1:16:50 PM): well have you practiced it?
Veilmask999 (1:16:59 PM): Sure, it is a sport
timsk1577 (1:17:07 PM): where and for how long?
Veilmask999 (1:17:20 PM): lol, long enough to know it was a sport
timsk1577 (1:17:27 PM): how long is that
Veilmask999 (1:17:33 PM): argueing emotion, not wise, your kinda biased
timsk1577 (1:17:39 PM): well no
Veilmask999 (1:17:51 PM): martial aspect dont make it any less a sport, martial is war, lots of war sports, like paint ball
Veilmask999 (1:17:54 PM): thats martial
timsk1577 (1:18:02 PM): martial is war??
timsk1577 (1:18:12 PM): have you read the book of five rings?
Veilmask999 (1:18:21 PM): butits a sport, yet painballers may argue differently, make the distinction, nothing wrong with practicing a spport you know
Veilmask999 (1:18:39 PM): LOL, read it, my young freind, that is the style I trained in for 10 years, from 8 to 18, lol
timsk1577 (1:18:39 PM): thing is so how long have you been practicing?
Veilmask999 (1:18:46 PM): 24 years
timsk1577 (1:18:54 PM): ok ok so what rank?
Veilmask999 (1:19:03 PM): Do not go the route of the synic and skeptic when your views begin to be challenged, thats weak
timsk1577 (1:19:23 PM): its still a martial art to me
timsk1577 (1:19:28 PM): i don't see it as a sport6
Veilmask999 (1:19:30 PM): well it is not
Veilmask999 (1:19:39 PM): nothing wrong eiht that though
Veilmask999 (1:19:41 PM): with
Veilmask999 (1:19:53 PM): Are you at risk?
timsk1577 (1:20:01 PM): ???
timsk1577 (1:20:04 PM): at risk?
Veilmask999 (1:20:08 PM): tou wear armor, football players are at more risk
Veilmask999 (1:20:13 PM): Yes, risk
Veilmask999 (1:20:17 PM): There must be risk for gain
timsk1577 (1:20:41 PM): well yes football players are at risk since they actually get tackled
Veilmask999 (1:20:44 PM): Your to set in your ways for me to teach, you dont listen
Veilmask999 (1:20:52 PM): To quick to disagree
timsk1577 (1:20:54 PM): well preach on then
timsk1577 (1:21:00 PM): tell me why its a sport to you
timsk1577 (1:21:02 PM): i'll listen
Veilmask999 (1:21:07 PM): Nah, you consider it preaching, you get personally involved
timsk1577 (1:21:11 PM): okok
timsk1577 (1:21:13 PM): wrong worf
timsk1577 (1:21:14 PM): word
Veilmask999 (1:21:23 PM): Nah, whats the pojnt, I come here looking for decent students, your in cali,
Veilmask999 (1:21:38 PM): *shrug*
timsk1577 (1:21:43 PM): so what does cali have todo with me being a decent student?
Veilmask999 (1:21:54 PM): cant teach you, your in cali
Veilmask999 (1:22:08 PM): and your to wrapped up in kendo, you dont want to hear about anything else
timsk1577 (1:22:14 PM): well you said it was a sport. sure it has sports aspects, but why is it a sport to you?
Veilmask999 (1:22:14 PM): a shame
Veilmask999 (1:22:24 PM): Hmm, because it is
Veilmask999 (1:22:27 PM): Protection
Veilmask999 (1:22:29 PM): check,
Veilmask999 (1:22:31 PM): points
Veilmask999 (1:22:33 PM): check,
Veilmask999 (1:22:35 PM): life,
Veilmask999 (1:22:38 PM): not at risk, check
Veilmask999 (1:22:44 PM): not a real martial art, since thats for war
Veilmask999 (1:22:45 PM): hmm
Veilmask999 (1:22:47 PM): sport
timsk1577 (1:22:49 PM): i can agree with you with the points
timsk1577 (1:22:56 PM): that is like a sport
timsk1577 (1:23:27 PM): but protection is derived from the fact that ppl got maimed or killed practicing with real swords.
Veilmask999 (1:23:31 PM): not like, is, stop trying to make semantical differences, you think it being a sport makes it less valid, pfft.
timsk1577 (1:23:33 PM): same with shinai
Veilmask999 (1:23:35 PM): Thats what wood is for
timsk1577 (1:23:45 PM): you can still get maimed with mood
timsk1577 (1:23:46 PM): wood
Veilmask999 (1:23:47 PM): bah, shinai can break and splinter this si true
Veilmask999 (1:23:58 PM): I know this, I have been sparring wiht it all my life, not dead yet
Veilmask999 (1:24:06 PM): and my stuidents are taught to spar with it
Veilmask999 (1:24:23 PM): and your too quick to answer, do you ever just listen?
Veilmask999 (1:24:28 PM): oi vei
Veilmask999 (1:24:41 PM): how you keep quiet in your classes, a mystery
timsk1577 (1:24:50 PM): yes i do
Veilmask999 (1:24:59 PM): miraacle, you cant do it here
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