[Nptxsews]

Veilmask999 (1:25:02 PM): oi
Veilmask999 (1:25:18 PM): Hardwood is good
Veilmask999 (1:25:44 PM): Risk is good, as long as it is managed, have to be a real swordsman to work with hardwood, if you cant, your not good enough
Veilmask999 (1:25:54 PM): its that simple really
Veilmask999 (1:25:57 PM): *shrug*
Veilmask999 (1:26:23 PM): sorry, I can not talk anymore, you keep typing, and wanting to interrupt
timsk1577 (1:26:35 PM): hello!?? you typed more than me
Veilmask999 (1:26:45 PM): yes, but I am trying to teach you something
Veilmask999 (1:26:49 PM): big difference
Veilmask999 (1:26:53 PM): oi
timsk1577 (1:27:34 PM): ok so the only thing you taught me is that kendo is a sport because it has points, your life is not at risk and there is p[rotection
Veilmask999 (1:27:45 PM): more then that, but yes
Veilmask999 (1:27:56 PM): and if thats all its because your not really open to anything else
timsk1577 (1:27:56 PM): ok so show me more then
timsk1577 (1:28:12 PM): i'd liike to know why you think its a sport
Veilmask999 (1:28:15 PM): you have that samw blind devotion that many martial artists have to their styles
timsk1577 (1:28:15 PM): know more
Veilmask999 (1:28:37 PM): Nah, I dont have anything to prove, never have, thats why I dont fit in here for the most part, ands because I teach a ral martial art
Veilmask999 (1:28:43 PM): real
Veilmask999 (1:28:54 PM): How tiresome, ah well, thats life
timsk1577 (1:28:56 PM): so what is this real martial art you teach?
Veilmask999 (1:29:03 PM): Swordsmanship of course
Veilmask999 (1:29:07 PM): lol
timsk1577 (1:29:10 PM): ok so what type?
Veilmask999 (1:29:10 PM): havent you been listening
timsk1577 (1:29:12 PM): there are many
Veilmask999 (1:29:15 PM): I told you
timsk1577 (1:29:24 PM): kenjutsu, theres european fencing
Veilmask999 (1:29:41 PM): thats not european fencing, lol
timsk1577 (1:29:46 PM): sword work?
Veilmask999 (1:29:52 PM): Sword work is a broad term
Veilmask999 (1:29:56 PM): work with a swor
timsk1577 (1:29:57 PM): thats what you coined it
timsk1577 (1:30:02 PM): as
Veilmask999 (1:30:03 PM): sword
Veilmask999 (1:30:12 PM): nevermind, youd not understand
Veilmask999 (1:30:17 PM): and your questions are the wrong ones
Veilmask999 (1:30:29 PM): style means nothing, it is the man, there is no superior style, only superior fighters
timsk1577 (1:30:48 PM): well you are shrouded in the fact that you won't listen to me and the fact that you spout off your own ideas
timsk1577 (1:30:53 PM): i am more open than you think
Veilmask999 (1:30:54 PM): true
Veilmask999 (1:30:57 PM): perhaps
Veilmask999 (1:31:01 PM): *shrug*
timsk1577 (1:31:23 PM): you seemed to have formed your own opinion after 24 years of kendo
Veilmask999 (1:31:27 PM): Hey, you may be great at Kendo, but it aint sword work
timsk1577 (1:31:30 PM): which is fine
Veilmask999 (1:31:41 PM): 24 years of sword work, kendo aint sword work
timsk1577 (1:31:41 PM): ppl quit and for various reasons
Veilmask999 (1:31:45 PM): lol
timsk1577 (1:31:54 PM): ok you said you had 24 years of kendo experience
Veilmask999 (1:32:08 PM): No I said 24 years fo sword work, I think I know what I said
timsk1577 (1:32:34 PM): timsk1577 (1:18:39 PM): thing is so how long have you been practicing?
Veilmask999 (1:18:46 PM): 24 years
timsk1577 (1:32:37 PM): i meant kendo here
timsk1577 (1:32:46 PM): so 24 years of swordwork then
Veilmask999 (1:33:05 PM): you keep asking me about me, do you see me inquiring about your credentials, and time in suhcc things
timsk1577 (1:33:07 PM): didn't want to misunderstand
Veilmask999 (1:33:22 PM): No, cause I dont care, you ask the wrong questions
Veilmask999 (1:33:45 PM): ah well, no matter how much money you had I'd have turned you away already, good that you live in Cali
Veilmask999 (1:33:53 PM): *shrug*
timsk1577 (1:34:08 PM): money? since when did this turninto a conversation about money?
Veilmask999 (1:34:21 PM): lol, it didn't, take care
timsk1577 (1:34:49 PM): sure.... whatever you say....
Veilmask999 (1:34:59 PM): thanks, this is kinda going nowhere, you know?
timsk1577 (1:35:11 PM): well tell me what swordwork is so i understand it
timsk1577 (1:35:16 PM): then it'll go somewhere
timsk1577 (1:35:31 PM): i've got all the time in the world right now
Veilmask999 (1:35:34 PM): Sword work is proper cutting techniqwue, timing, rhythm, everything one uses to kill ones opponent.
Veilmask999 (1:35:57 PM): It is geared toward practicality, towards simplicity, towards overcoming ones fear of death, this is sword work
timsk1577 (1:36:22 PM): ok. so what kind of sword do you use to practice swordwork?
Veilmask999 (1:37:03 PM): Doesnt matter, swords a sword, some are better for cutting some thrusting, depends on the person, I dont fcous overly on the technique, but equally on the physical and
mental aspects
Veilmask999 (1:37:15 PM): Dont get caught up in the mundane of this weapon and that
timsk1577 (1:37:29 PM): well wouldn't you need a sword to practice swordwork?
timsk1577 (1:37:49 PM): and wouldn't it make a difference btwn a katana and say a claymore?
Veilmask999 (1:38:13 PM): lol, ofcourse, however truth be told, if you have zanshin, then your already a master, even if you have never picked up a sword.
timsk1577 (1:40:03 PM): ok. so if you don't overy focus on your technique, then wouldn't "timing, rhythm, proper cutting technique" seem to implicity emphasize technique?
Veilmask999 (1:40:36 PM): Those are necessities, I dont overly focus, this does not mean no focus, mind, body, spirit, I teach all three
timsk1577 (1:41:28 PM): wouldn't you want to focus on that if they were necessities?
timsk1577 (1:41:38 PM): they seem to imply the basics of your martial art
timsk1577 (1:42:40 PM): and no.. just having zanshin doesn't make you a master... (if that is what you are implying about kendo)
Veilmask999 (1:42:48 PM): no, because mind and spirit together are more important, they will be mastered, you making the mistake of not lsitening. To focus ovrerly is to overly develop these
aspects. Not a lot of ways to kill a man, the moe complex a thing, the moe that can go wrong, keep it simple.
Veilmask999 (1:43:04 PM): LOL, your just a kid, you dont even know what Zanshin, is
timsk1577 (1:43:10 PM): kid?
timsk1577 (1:43:14 PM): pretty old for a kid
Veilmask999 (1:43:27 PM): Sorry, it does indeed make one a master, man, you are to wrapped up in the physical, youll nbever be a master with that attitude
Veilmask999 (1:43:50 PM): Old has nothing to do with it. I am about 50,000 years older, likely older, your spiirt is very young.
Veilmask999 (1:44:22 PM): reincarnation ins a wonderful thing, if you have been around a while, a burden too, know more then I would really like, ignorance is bliss, believe me
timsk1577 (1:44:34 PM): the "moe"? really mature....
timsk1577 (1:45:02 PM): ok so how does just having zanshin make you a master?
Veilmask999 (1:45:35 PM): I dont ahve time to explain it, one not fear death also makes on a master, this does not equate with you either I think
Veilmask999 (1:45:50 PM): To not fear death also makes on a master, wont explain that to you either
timsk1577 (1:45:56 PM): whatever
Veilmask999 (1:45:57 PM): some thing you have to figure out for yourself,
Veilmask999 (1:46:06 PM): if I gave out answers, no one would work to find them
Veilmask999 (1:46:19 PM): you want easy answers dont you, lol
timsk1577 (1:46:20 PM): its not like i want all my answers from you
Veilmask999 (1:46:42 PM): yeah but its really that simple
Veilmask999 (1:46:49 PM): Kep this in mind
Veilmask999 (1:46:56 PM): and this lesson is worth a lot
Veilmask999 (1:47:17 PM): TYhe answers you seek, lie in the simple things, to look for them in technique, style, movement, you wont find them
timsk1577 (1:47:29 PM): that is pretty obvious to me
Veilmask999 (1:47:34 PM): simplicity is the ky to mastering anything, the way to master one thing is the way to master all things
Veilmask999 (1:47:56 PM): obvious yes, but you know the path and do not walk it, thats like being a soup ladle in a bowel of soup but never tasting the soup
Veilmask999 (1:48:05 PM): ;-)
timsk1577 (1:48:08 PM): hmm that seems like kendo to me tho
Veilmask999 (1:48:10 PM): annoyed yet?
timsk1577 (1:48:15 PM): nope not at all
Veilmask999 (1:48:17 PM): it seems, but it aint
timsk1577 (1:48:27 PM): the way to master one thing.
timsk1577 (1:48:33 PM): i'm citing an example here
timsk1577 (1:48:38 PM): like learning kihon
Veilmask999 (1:48:46 PM): Your citing Miyamotot Musashi
timsk1577 (1:48:51 PM): you learn it, you polish it and it is still not enough
Veilmask999 (1:48:55 PM): Thats from ther book of five rings
timsk1577 (1:49:00 PM): tru
Veilmask999 (1:49:04 PM): Look
Veilmask999 (1:50:38 PM): one sec
timsk1577 (1:50:43 PM): ok no prob
timsk1577 (1:50:55 PM): i can wait
Veilmask999 (1:57:14 PM): back
timsk1577 (1:57:19 PM): ok
Veilmask999 (1:58:16 PM): cant explain it to well, but these things, to conquer ones fear of death, this is what doing all the sword work and practin all those years are all about, thats the goal, if on
can achieve it, mastery over life and death, what more is there he needs to learn, nothing.
Veilmask999 (1:58:43 PM): Stories like this are meant to stress the importance of the important things, instead you newbies and long timers, get caught up in the wrong stuff, the wrong goals
Veilmask999 (1:58:58 PM): its a shame, but what can I do *shrug*
timsk1577 (1:59:55 PM): the thing is.. you come and talk about your martial art and how kendo is a sport and it seems like you haven't practiced it at all. I can't comment about how your martial art
is fake as much as you can't comment on kendo and say its fake.
Veilmask999 (2:00:29 PM): LOL, trust me I can, because its all about creating life and taking it, anything else is just a sport.

Tim