Let me tell a little story to illustrate what I mean: last year at the IKF Asian Zone Shinpan Seminar in Korea, an inordinate amount of time was spent grilling the Japanese 8-dans present on what should be done when players and/or managers physically attack shinpan. The Japanese were visibly bemused by what seemed to be an excessive interest in what was for them a hypothetical situation. One of the Taiwanese delegates turned to me and asked if we had this situation in Australia. I replied of course not. He then said it is not uncommon in Taiwan and Korea, at competitions where substantial amounts of prizemoney are offered at large municipal taikai, for players and team managers to physically threaten and abuse shinpan when a decision goes against them and they disagree with it.