thanks for all your help guys. I dont intend to compete until I feel confident that i would stand a chance not to get clobbered while trying to follow the rules. All the fancy terms you mentioned i dont understand yet so if you could explain them it would be much appreciated. I could probably hold my own in sword combat from my previous experience but I know that kendo has many more rules than that and i probably wouldnt be a very safe opponant atm. Also, just out of interest; does anyone know of any people who, outside of the holiwood movies, have done quite well competing as a relatively new person to the art? Just curious because sometimes it happens in karate. Martino, its good to see a fellow aussie in the forums :-) good on you!