I don't know squat about spelunking, i know what it is like but other than that, nothing. Does that make me ignorant? Are there people on the spelunking forums dissing me right now because i think it is quite silly? What we do is bloody silly! Just enjoy it. I mean, did any of you start kendo by thinking, "hmmm, i wish there was something out there that would mould my mind through the principals of the katana...."? Or were you like me who thought, "swords are cool, i want to learn"? Boys and their toys..... Incidentally, i just typed in weird hobbies in google... First hit was a BBC report saying weird hobbies such as SAMURAI SWORD COLLECTING are big no-no's for the CV. Who'd a thunk?