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**kuklame** · 10-04-2007, 01:17 PM

Second, the animal wasn't 'invented' it was bred, just as most of the animals people eat are bred, humans cannot 'invent' animals. Cows and sheep would not look like they do in the wild, they have been selectively bred for certain traits which humans find useful. I find it hypocritical when anyone who eats meat complains about experiments like this as they are essentially eating the product of the same process. At least these scientists aren't eating the frogs but are instead using them to gain an understanding of biology that can save lives, and doing it in a way that means they won't have to kill the frogs to do so.

Mike

It's refreshing to see that more people share this opinion. As a biologist I have had a couple people ask me why we as scientists continue to experiment on animals and then I start to get an earful of how it's inhumane, etc. I then say to them, "then you may as well never got to a hospital, take any OTC drugs, or eat any store bought foods."

On another topic, people cry foul over genetically modified foods but are perfectly content to eat corn bought from a farmer who is growing so-called "organic" corn. First of all, selective breeding is simply a very crude form of genetic modification; selecting particular traits and amplifying them through cross breeding.

In the end, maybe people ought to think about it this way: lab animals are used so that we may find new cures and live longer, healthier lives.

10-04-2007, 01:17 PM	#21
kuklame Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 374 Senior Member	Second, the animal wasn't 'invented' it was bred, just as most of the animals people eat are bred, humans cannot 'invent' animals. Cows and sheep would not look like they do in the wild, they have been selectively bred for certain traits which humans find useful. I find it hypocritical when anyone who eats meat complains about experiments like this as they are essentially eating the product of the same process. At least these scientists aren't eating the frogs but are instead using them to gain an understanding of biology that can save lives, and doing it in a way that means they won't have to kill the frogs to do so. Mike It's refreshing to see that more people share this opinion. As a biologist I have had a couple people ask me why we as scientists continue to experiment on animals and then I start to get an earful of how it's inhumane, etc. I then say to them, "then you may as well never got to a hospital, take any OTC drugs, or eat any store bought foods." On another topic, people cry foul over genetically modified foods but are perfectly content to eat corn bought from a farmer who is growing so-called "organic" corn. First of all, selective breeding is simply a very crude form of genetic modification; selecting particular traits and amplifying them through cross breeding. In the end, maybe people ought to think about it this way: lab animals are used so that we may find new cures and live longer, healthier lives.
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