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**Vjwkvkoy** · 03-05-2010, 09:36 AM

So do low injury rates qualify Historical European Martial Artists as bad asses? Yes, kendo was practiced differently in the past (and still practiced at some places in Japan, I've heard). But, come on, if someone's goal is sword combat proficiency, what are they doing in kendo as practiced now anyway? Maybe they should instead introduce blades into K-1 or cage fighting. Not only more appropriate and but larger crowds, too.

I practice with a guy who practices in police dojos and works in diplomatic security. We do take downs etc and it is quite fun, but only if someone else is up for it. He went for a sweep on me yesterday only to find that i took him down and wound up in side control where I used a darse on him. He keeps on wanting me to join him in japan to train with those guys.

There is an art to it (I spend 14+ hours a week on kendo, grappling and striking) so its not just backyard brawling. Pre-war waza isn't all grappling of course, but grappling and kendo are two sides of the same coin... (see the article on kumitachi). You really only need a basic understanding of how to sweep someone.

For the original poster, look at http://kenshi247.net/blog/category/series/prewarkendo/ for all sorts of pre-war waza (many of which are still recognizable today). Grappling is just a minor portion.

For example I preformed Orishiki Do on the same guy the other day for fun. Heck that waza is more or less still in kata number 7.

03-05-2010, 09:36 AM	#8
Vjwkvkoy Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 448 Senior Member	So do low injury rates qualify Historical European Martial Artists as bad asses? Yes, kendo was practiced differently in the past (and still practiced at some places in Japan, I've heard). But, come on, if someone's goal is sword combat proficiency, what are they doing in kendo as practiced now anyway? Maybe they should instead introduce blades into K-1 or cage fighting. Not only more appropriate and but larger crowds, too. I practice with a guy who practices in police dojos and works in diplomatic security. We do take downs etc and it is quite fun, but only if someone else is up for it. He went for a sweep on me yesterday only to find that i took him down and wound up in side control where I used a darse on him. He keeps on wanting me to join him in japan to train with those guys. There is an art to it (I spend 14+ hours a week on kendo, grappling and striking) so its not just backyard brawling. Pre-war waza isn't all grappling of course, but grappling and kendo are two sides of the same coin... (see the article on kumitachi). You really only need a basic understanding of how to sweep someone. For the original poster, look at http://kenshi247.net/blog/category/series/prewarkendo/ for all sorts of pre-war waza (many of which are still recognizable today). Grappling is just a minor portion. For example I preformed Orishiki Do on the same guy the other day for fun. Heck that waza is more or less still in kata number 7.
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