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**mralabama** · 01-29-2010, 01:05 PM

Germany's an outlier. Most places, shodan starting as an adult is 3 years or less.

Wasn't about the Kendo, but that all other arts are 3-4 years to Shodan - at least minimum time. That's not such a high level of mastery.
I'd think, while having more gradings and starting lower, there should be more options to grade (the arts being more mainstream), so the chance of missing out an entire semster might be equal? Is the fail rate at kyu grades so high in Judo or Karate (TKD similar requirements as far as I could find out)? Do they market their black belts better?

I'm not sure why you added the ~30 months for ikkyu on the kendo timeline, there. Are you saying after thirty + months German kenshi are guaranteed a shodan, regardless of testing?

No, that's minimum time over here. And I guess the pass-rate for shodan is equal, if not worse to international gradings.
Absolute minimum, no skipping grades, no 'oh, you're better, we'll give you a kyu or two more'.

01-29-2010, 01:05 PM	#28
mralabama Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 452 Senior Member	Germany's an outlier. Most places, shodan starting as an adult is 3 years or less. Wasn't about the Kendo, but that all other arts are 3-4 years to Shodan - at least minimum time. That's not such a high level of mastery. I'd think, while having more gradings and starting lower, there should be more options to grade (the arts being more mainstream), so the chance of missing out an entire semster might be equal? Is the fail rate at kyu grades so high in Judo or Karate (TKD similar requirements as far as I could find out)? Do they market their black belts better? I'm not sure why you added the ~30 months for ikkyu on the kendo timeline, there. Are you saying after thirty + months German kenshi are guaranteed a shodan, regardless of testing? No, that's minimum time over here. And I guess the pass-rate for shodan is equal, if not worse to international gradings. Absolute minimum, no skipping grades, no 'oh, you're better, we'll give you a kyu or two more'.
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