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**nabsgood** · 11-04-2009, 11:56 AM

I happen to be practicing Shinto-ryu these days which is the kenjutsu (sword to sword) set from Shindo Muso-ryu jodo and there are two kata that pop to mind which cut on a step back, both are an uke nagashi to beside uchidachi, then a step back to make distance and finish cut.

So there's hiki waza for you. Can't think of a hiki kiri in Niten Ichiryu offhand but there's a place or two where we step back to avoid getting hit, and sweep uchidachi's bokuto aside before attacking back in. Oops, yes of course, there are a bunch on the uchidachi side.

On the length of the shinai tsuka, it's obviously because kendo is more accurate than the other kenjutsu schools since as we all know the samurai used tsuka which were very much longer than those on swords and bokuto today.

OK OK not trying to start anything... actually the shinai tsuka is that length because of the big influence of jodo on kendo, and the grip on the jo is about the same as the grip on the shinai.

No? How about the classical ratio of tsuka to overall length is 1:4. Does that work on your average shinai?

Kim.

11-04-2009, 11:56 AM	#34
nabsgood Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 385 Senior Member	I happen to be practicing Shinto-ryu these days which is the kenjutsu (sword to sword) set from Shindo Muso-ryu jodo and there are two kata that pop to mind which cut on a step back, both are an uke nagashi to beside uchidachi, then a step back to make distance and finish cut. So there's hiki waza for you. Can't think of a hiki kiri in Niten Ichiryu offhand but there's a place or two where we step back to avoid getting hit, and sweep uchidachi's bokuto aside before attacking back in. Oops, yes of course, there are a bunch on the uchidachi side. On the length of the shinai tsuka, it's obviously because kendo is more accurate than the other kenjutsu schools since as we all know the samurai used tsuka which were very much longer than those on swords and bokuto today. OK OK not trying to start anything... actually the shinai tsuka is that length because of the big influence of jodo on kendo, and the grip on the jo is about the same as the grip on the shinai. No? How about the classical ratio of tsuka to overall length is 1:4. Does that work on your average shinai? Kim.
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