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Old 05-14-2007, 03:09 PM   #28
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Financed only by one man from Kremlin, actually. He have his own targets. And his methods radically diferent from methods of Kremlin.
You just do not understand WHAT IS KREMLIN.
It is thousands men, eachone have self oppinion, targets and methods.
Kremlin have mainstream, consists from thousands substreams.
You are naive if you think Putin doesn't control everything that happens in the Kremlin. If he didn't want to control everything you would still have Kasyanov as prime minister, a freer press and OMON wouldn't beat down old ladies.
About another things, what you said: it is basically trash knowledge, part of Kasparov propaganda. Looks like: "bad is bad, they are bastards, they do bad, move them out, we do gooood, we are fine, take us, we will do better, they do wrong things, we will do right things". Paf! Primitive logic. Primitive knowledge base. Nothing about real situation. Populism and dirty PR-methods. What is exactly? you seem to generalize everything I say as trash knowledge? What part of what I said is trash? According to you Putin can do no wrong.
Sorry, we ate this sh.t in Yeltsin period more than just enough. Thank you, we don't wanna eat it again. Too much smell! what exactly about the Yeltsin period? Yeltsin made Putin, and everything Putin does he borrows from Yeltsin except that he got rid of free press, cracking down on peaceful demonstrations and concentrated the natural resources of the country in his croneys hands...read KLEPTOCRACY.

If you've never know true democracy how can you say it doesn't work? What happened in the 90's was still better then what is going on now, if Yeltsin had high oil prices to fuel the economy like Putin does everything would be different.
About Nashi and Stalin, I partially agree with you, but...
... but you do too much mistakes in logical deducations, have very short-sighted in "Russia question". You try to simplify complex problems and this reason why your final conclusions so funny. Be logical and objective, please, just try, overwise we can't speak normally. WHats so complex about racism and hatred? I dont understand what you are saying? Stalin wasn't that bad really? And Nashi is a peacefull pro-democracy movtnt. ")
P.S. Estonian natism is present-time problem, but Stalin died in middle of past century!
Try to keep main theme of this topic. Please.
What knid of relation have "Nashi" to moving of Bronze Soldier? Very far from REAL relation.
Source of this problem in undemocratic regime in Estonia. There is present undemocratic status "uncivilian" (one word!)
Actually giving previledges in each aspect of civil life by national indication is natism.
It is very sad, when our Forward of democracy - U.S.A. - just close eyes to situation inside Estonian community.
Russians in Estonia need help, their rights is under massive attack of nationalist government, but E.U. and U.S.A. silent and don't hurry to stop nationalism in Estonia. And... Estonia have status "democratic country"! Very sad... Try to guess WHO give that status to Estonia... and guess WHY... Estonia is a REAL democracy in contrast to Russia which is a quasi dictatorship. Estonia has free press and free society, Russia has a censored manipulated press and a corrupt government. Estonia is fully within it's rights to do as it pleases. Yes there's a large Russian minority in Estonia but they have no right to burn cars and break windows to get their point across. What happened in Estonia happens in Russia ALL the time, except that it's done in a much less respectful way than Estonia did it. Russia should first take care of its own veterans and it's own graves before starting rhetoric about Estonia. The kind of propaganda that the Kremlin threw out in this instance is shameful, just as shameful as comparing USA to the third reich.
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