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**suiviouse** · 07-30-2012, 11:56 PM

Anyone watching the women's qualifiying? Canada just made the team final . As a Canadian, I'm so thrilled. Gymnastics has always been a major struggle for us, so this is REALLY huge.

I've got a question for those of you with some knowledge of the sport. I was watching the floor routine for Victoria Moors CAN, and she seemed to get through really well. Her tumbling passes looked clean, and she did a great job performing between the elements. She actually had a 6.000 in difficulty, which to my knowledge is quite high, and she's been scoring really well all year. Yet, here, with what seemed to be a really strong routine, her execution score was terrible (8.1000) and her overall was a 14.100, which is really low by her usual standard. People thought she had a chance at making the final on floor going in, which her previous scores would suggest was a possibility, so it was surprising to see her drop so low here. Can anyone give some insight? Thanks!

I'm having a hard time tracking down a video of this, so I've only seen it once on the NBC live stream online and haven't re-watched it to confirm what I think I remember seeing. That said, I recall that she had a couple of fairly large steps after her final tumbling pass that resulted in her going out of bounds. Each step that is wider than shoulder width apart is a .3 deduction. A step that is smaller than shoulder width is a .1 deduction. Going out of bounds with one foot is a .1 deduction, and going out of bounds with two feet is a .3 deduction. If she just took one large step out of bounds, that would be the .3 for the step + the .1 for going out, a total of .4 for that one mistake. Add that .4 back in and she'd have been at a 14.5, which I believe would've been in the top eight and in line to make floor finals. Given that I think she had a couple of steps, her score could've been even a bit higher had she stuck the tumbling pass instead of taking steps. I think that she had two steps, meaning she lost at least .5-.8 on that tumbling pass alone. If I can track down a video of her, or if somebody else does for me, I can explain some of the other deductions. The floor scoring at the Olympics has been a bit tighter than what one might see at a national championships, but overall it's been fairly consistent and I've not seen any scores that were very far from what I expected, at least after I took the time to think through the start values and deductions.

16.000 difficulty is fairly good for floor. Most of the finalists were between 16.000 and 16.2, with the top difficulty score coming in at 16.5.

I would like to throw in the disclaimer that I've never judged as high as the elite level, and so my descriptions of the judging, while informed by experience at lower levels and knowledge of the current Code of Points, may not be perfect.

07-30-2012, 11:56 PM	#30
suiviouse Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 442 Senior Member	Anyone watching the women's qualifiying? Canada just made the team final . As a Canadian, I'm so thrilled. Gymnastics has always been a major struggle for us, so this is REALLY huge. I've got a question for those of you with some knowledge of the sport. I was watching the floor routine for Victoria Moors CAN, and she seemed to get through really well. Her tumbling passes looked clean, and she did a great job performing between the elements. She actually had a 6.000 in difficulty, which to my knowledge is quite high, and she's been scoring really well all year. Yet, here, with what seemed to be a really strong routine, her execution score was terrible (8.1000) and her overall was a 14.100, which is really low by her usual standard. People thought she had a chance at making the final on floor going in, which her previous scores would suggest was a possibility, so it was surprising to see her drop so low here. Can anyone give some insight? Thanks! I'm having a hard time tracking down a video of this, so I've only seen it once on the NBC live stream online and haven't re-watched it to confirm what I think I remember seeing. That said, I recall that she had a couple of fairly large steps after her final tumbling pass that resulted in her going out of bounds. Each step that is wider than shoulder width apart is a .3 deduction. A step that is smaller than shoulder width is a .1 deduction. Going out of bounds with one foot is a .1 deduction, and going out of bounds with two feet is a .3 deduction. If she just took one large step out of bounds, that would be the .3 for the step + the .1 for going out, a total of .4 for that one mistake. Add that .4 back in and she'd have been at a 14.5, which I believe would've been in the top eight and in line to make floor finals. Given that I think she had a couple of steps, her score could've been even a bit higher had she stuck the tumbling pass instead of taking steps. I think that she had two steps, meaning she lost at least .5-.8 on that tumbling pass alone. If I can track down a video of her, or if somebody else does for me, I can explain some of the other deductions. The floor scoring at the Olympics has been a bit tighter than what one might see at a national championships, but overall it's been fairly consistent and I've not seen any scores that were very far from what I expected, at least after I took the time to think through the start values and deductions. 16.000 difficulty is fairly good for floor. Most of the finalists were between 16.000 and 16.2, with the top difficulty score coming in at 16.5. I would like to throw in the disclaimer that I've never judged as high as the elite level, and so my descriptions of the judging, while informed by experience at lower levels and knowledge of the current Code of Points, may not be perfect.
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