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**IRMartin** · 11-15-2010, 05:16 PM

Have you asked your niece to help you in expressing yourself clearly? She could probably be of great assistance to you.

All I asked was for you to give evidence that supported your opinion that more Democrats than Republicans supported cuts to Social Security. All you've done since then is dance around the question and attempt to deflect it with accusations about everyone else's intelligence.

Someone with a real interest in discussion wouldn't do that, but would answer the question. so what you're showing us is that you either don't have an answer, or are so firmly locked into your agenda that no discussion is possible, or maybe both.

First of all its Conservatives not Republicans the terms are not synonomous. Richard was speaking of Conservatives. I admitted I don't have specific evidence to back up my postulation. But you don't have any evidence to prove my statement wrong. So I could be right could be wrong, so what? If you want to investigate it further, as it seems to be so very important to you go ahead, but I don't really care. That said the statement is irrelevant to the discussion on this thread that is about whether or not Richard can claim that the idea of cutting Social security is a Key Conservative idea when the evidence I did bring forward clearly indicates strong and long term Democratic Leadership support for the idea. The secondary topic on this thread is about drawing logical conclusions from poll Data in regards to the limitations of that poll, again I provide ample evidence that the conclusions that you, Richard and DES drew from the Data are illogical. Neither of which you seem to understand or even care about discussing, instead you would rather focus on an aside in an attempt to avoid either challanging Richard or Defending him. No you don't want discussion, you just want everyone who doesn't share your views to shut it up because you cannot apparently make an honest defense of them.

Defend Richard's position that cutting Social Security taxes is a Key Conservative idea rather than one that Democrats have long supported.

Defend your conclusion that the poll question means that Dems don't support cutting Social Security. Not that they prefer raising taxes on the wealthy to cutting social security, which are two different things entirely.

11-15-2010, 05:16 PM	#35
IRMartin Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 378 Senior Member	Have you asked your niece to help you in expressing yourself clearly? She could probably be of great assistance to you. All I asked was for you to give evidence that supported your opinion that more Democrats than Republicans supported cuts to Social Security. All you've done since then is dance around the question and attempt to deflect it with accusations about everyone else's intelligence. Someone with a real interest in discussion wouldn't do that, but would answer the question. so what you're showing us is that you either don't have an answer, or are so firmly locked into your agenda that no discussion is possible, or maybe both. First of all its Conservatives not Republicans the terms are not synonomous. Richard was speaking of Conservatives. I admitted I don't have specific evidence to back up my postulation. But you don't have any evidence to prove my statement wrong. So I could be right could be wrong, so what? If you want to investigate it further, as it seems to be so very important to you go ahead, but I don't really care. That said the statement is irrelevant to the discussion on this thread that is about whether or not Richard can claim that the idea of cutting Social security is a Key Conservative idea when the evidence I did bring forward clearly indicates strong and long term Democratic Leadership support for the idea. The secondary topic on this thread is about drawing logical conclusions from poll Data in regards to the limitations of that poll, again I provide ample evidence that the conclusions that you, Richard and DES drew from the Data are illogical. Neither of which you seem to understand or even care about discussing, instead you would rather focus on an aside in an attempt to avoid either challanging Richard or Defending him. No you don't want discussion, you just want everyone who doesn't share your views to shut it up because you cannot apparently make an honest defense of them. Defend Richard's position that cutting Social Security taxes is a Key Conservative idea rather than one that Democrats have long supported. Defend your conclusion that the poll question means that Dems don't support cutting Social Security. Not that they prefer raising taxes on the wealthy to cutting social security, which are two different things entirely.
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