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**CtEkM8Vq** · 08-09-2010, 07:52 PM

Because the new system will not be able to contain costs, see above analysis of Dutch system. To the make sure that every citizen has access you will have to adopt an Universal System which as I have said will lead to rationing.

Amazing that those I personally know with Universal Healthcare do not have the problems you are proposing will happen.

I would love to have Universal Healthcare. I wouldn't have to worry about the ER bill I'm about to get because my son got sick at Scout Camp with strep throat and got taken to the ER (and yes, right now, I have insurance, but I'm not even sure if my crappy insurance will pay for this trip to the ER). I wouldn't have to worry those weeks/months that there is no temp work and I *am* insured that me or my son get sick or injured and have to go to the hospital. Thankfully, this last uninsured time, I got an ear infection that a doctor a my church saw me for without cost (very nice young doctor), but that's not always an option.

It's "rationed" on the simple basis that those without insurance are unable to obtain even basic health care.

And even now, health care gets rationed WITH insurance. Try getting in to see a mental health counselor or psychologist/psychiatrist. In my area, even with an urgent need, it's a four month wait. That happens with seeing a specialist MD, as well. Not having universal healthcare doesn't guarantee you can call and get an appointment anywhere you need within a week or two.

08-09-2010, 07:52 PM	#17
CtEkM8Vq Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 531 Senior Member	Because the new system will not be able to contain costs, see above analysis of Dutch system. To the make sure that every citizen has access you will have to adopt an Universal System which as I have said will lead to rationing. Amazing that those I personally know with Universal Healthcare do not have the problems you are proposing will happen. I would love to have Universal Healthcare. I wouldn't have to worry about the ER bill I'm about to get because my son got sick at Scout Camp with strep throat and got taken to the ER (and yes, right now, I have insurance, but I'm not even sure if my crappy insurance will pay for this trip to the ER). I wouldn't have to worry those weeks/months that there is no temp work and I am insured that me or my son get sick or injured and have to go to the hospital. Thankfully, this last uninsured time, I got an ear infection that a doctor a my church saw me for without cost (very nice young doctor), but that's not always an option. It's "rationed" on the simple basis that those without insurance are unable to obtain even basic health care. And even now, health care gets rationed WITH insurance. Try getting in to see a mental health counselor or psychologist/psychiatrist. In my area, even with an urgent need, it's a four month wait. That happens with seeing a specialist MD, as well. Not having universal healthcare doesn't guarantee you can call and get an appointment anywhere you need within a week or two.
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