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**TopcigsCOM** · 09-01-2012, 12:30 PM

Mark

With all due respect I do think you are missing the point. It is not the dope smoking that is the main issue here it is the fact that groups of 20 or 30 teenagers congregate in one area, blocking the passageways between apartments and refusing to move when asked, sitting in the gardens of empty apartments and again refusing to move when asked, leaving their litter (cans, bottles, cigarette ends, cigarette packets and the like) in gardens, moving sunlounger cushions and mattresses into gardens to build dens, lighting bonfires in gardens causing scorch marks to tiles and walls, stealing tables and chairs, causing damage to walls and ballustrades, breaking garden ornaments, having impromptu parties in the street with loud music and not to mention the noise from revving car engines and motorbikes/scooters racing up and down the narrow streets.

A handbag was stolen from a resident whilst in the pool gardens and a scooter has been driven around the pool gardens. Whilst you may not find this intimidating, many do and want something done about it. It is not a case of moving the problem elsewhere but stopping them from congregating in such a fashion as to cause fear and misery to residents especially the elderly and those trying to get youngsters to sleep which, as a new father, I am sure you can appreciate. We have moved them on several times and whilst they have done so they just come back again.

I also don't think putting gates in Altomar 2 is the answer (and there would have to be many gates to do so) although I believe this will be put to the vote at the next AGM.

Of course anything that you can do to help solve this problem would be appreciated.

09-01-2012, 12:30 PM	#20
TopcigsCOM Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 387 Senior Member	Mark With all due respect I do think you are missing the point. It is not the dope smoking that is the main issue here it is the fact that groups of 20 or 30 teenagers congregate in one area, blocking the passageways between apartments and refusing to move when asked, sitting in the gardens of empty apartments and again refusing to move when asked, leaving their litter (cans, bottles, cigarette ends, cigarette packets and the like) in gardens, moving sunlounger cushions and mattresses into gardens to build dens, lighting bonfires in gardens causing scorch marks to tiles and walls, stealing tables and chairs, causing damage to walls and ballustrades, breaking garden ornaments, having impromptu parties in the street with loud music and not to mention the noise from revving car engines and motorbikes/scooters racing up and down the narrow streets. A handbag was stolen from a resident whilst in the pool gardens and a scooter has been driven around the pool gardens. Whilst you may not find this intimidating, many do and want something done about it. It is not a case of moving the problem elsewhere but stopping them from congregating in such a fashion as to cause fear and misery to residents especially the elderly and those trying to get youngsters to sleep which, as a new father, I am sure you can appreciate. We have moved them on several times and whilst they have done so they just come back again. I also don't think putting gates in Altomar 2 is the answer (and there would have to be many gates to do so) although I believe this will be put to the vote at the next AGM. Of course anything that you can do to help solve this problem would be appreciated.
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