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**Eugen80** · 08-03-2006, 03:11 PM

It's funny that 100 years ago or so the concept of "german" didn't exist cuz there was no germany... and what about the 50 or so year split between east and west germany? I'd say german identity is rather amibigious.. much like the italian one which also was formed from smaller provinces into one.

But a german nation had existed before it was only ripped apart by the nobles ,who wanted their individual territories to be indipendandt.
And not to forget dutch isn´t an own language its a german dialect ,which was spoken about 200-300 years ago in the north of germany and there was always a treatie ,which held the territories togethet more or less "Heilige römische Reich deutscher Nationen",so I do think ,there is a fair bit of a general german culture around.

08-03-2006, 03:11 PM	#25
Eugen80 Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 385 Senior Member	It's funny that 100 years ago or so the concept of "german" didn't exist cuz there was no germany... and what about the 50 or so year split between east and west germany? I'd say german identity is rather amibigious.. much like the italian one which also was formed from smaller provinces into one. But a german nation had existed before it was only ripped apart by the nobles ,who wanted their individual territories to be indipendandt. And not to forget dutch isn´t an own language its a german dialect ,which was spoken about 200-300 years ago in the north of germany and there was always a treatie ,which held the territories togethet more or less "Heilige römische Reich deutscher Nationen",so I do think ,there is a fair bit of a general german culture around.
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