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**Enladalusange** · 09-01-2012, 12:48 PM

Err... East Asians are only Chinese, Mongolians, Japanese and Koreans. Thai, Laotians...etc are South East Asians...

For me (and for Lonely Planet guide books), East Asia includes North East Asia (Japan, Korea, Mongolia & China) + South East Asia (from Burma to the Philippines). Its easier to have a term for all this area because it represents all the Mongoloid countries together. Naturally Papua New Guinea is not part of South East Asia for me, as its people are closely related to Australian aborigenes.

Seriously in Europe (besides UK) there is no such thing called business immigration (a very difficult to qualify kind of immigration, don't believe me you can read it from the immi.gov.au website) where as English speaking Western countries all seems to have. I agree and that's a shame. I really wish that this changes. I believed that this is caused by the rotten Socialist parties in power in a lot of European countries (Blair's Labour is different though) that have made of immigration of kind of charitable humanitarian act rather than a rational economic policy. As a result all the "good", qualified and motivated immigrants go to English-speaking countries, while all the scum of the world goes to Europe because even other developing countries (and sometimes their own country) don't want them.

Well I am not sure about UK, I have heard of the Indians who receive pretty good reputations but I have also heard that the Chinese there are also very diligent. That's probably because the Indians tend to be more peaceful better at learning languages (and so adapting to a new country) and more eager to learn, and the Chinese are indeed reputed for being hard-working and money-conscious, so they aren't going to wait lazily that the government take them in charge, unlike the African immigrants who are happy as long as they get bad but free social acommodation and can watch TV all day.

In Australia in classes of Medicine in the University I went to, I heard from a reliable source, there were 1/3 of the students that are Chinese. That doesn't surprise me. When I was in Australia I was apalled at the fact that many of the Australians I met had very little "general knowledge" about medicine or anatomy (e.g. didn't know that their lever was on the right side of their belly). I found the (white) Australians to be good at sports and partying but usually had close to zero general knowledge (e.g. 2 persons out of 3 had no idea where Belgium was, when they knew it was a country at all !)

In Belgium medicine is a much more popular subject to study than in Britain or Australia because doctors have high salaries (in the UK it is pretty much fixed by the NHS) and there is still a lot of prestige associated with the title. So the vast majority of medicine students are Belgian, but also French because of the quota limits in France (so many come to study in Belgium). I do not have the data, but from what I remember when I visited the medical faculty, among non-European immigrants it is Black Africans that are the most numerous (esp. Congolese, Rwandese or Burundese, the ex-colonies of Belgium). Medicine seems to be one of the most popular university subject for Black Africans, certainly because of all the health problems in these countries.

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Enladalusange Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 332 Senior Member	Err... East Asians are only Chinese, Mongolians, Japanese and Koreans. Thai, Laotians...etc are South East Asians... For me (and for Lonely Planet guide books), East Asia includes North East Asia (Japan, Korea, Mongolia & China) + South East Asia (from Burma to the Philippines). Its easier to have a term for all this area because it represents all the Mongoloid countries together. Naturally Papua New Guinea is not part of South East Asia for me, as its people are closely related to Australian aborigenes. Seriously in Europe (besides UK) there is no such thing called business immigration (a very difficult to qualify kind of immigration, don't believe me you can read it from the immi.gov.au website) where as English speaking Western countries all seems to have. I agree and that's a shame. I really wish that this changes. I believed that this is caused by the rotten Socialist parties in power in a lot of European countries (Blair's Labour is different though) that have made of immigration of kind of charitable humanitarian act rather than a rational economic policy. As a result all the "good", qualified and motivated immigrants go to English-speaking countries, while all the scum of the world goes to Europe because even other developing countries (and sometimes their own country) don't want them. Well I am not sure about UK, I have heard of the Indians who receive pretty good reputations but I have also heard that the Chinese there are also very diligent. That's probably because the Indians tend to be more peaceful better at learning languages (and so adapting to a new country) and more eager to learn, and the Chinese are indeed reputed for being hard-working and money-conscious, so they aren't going to wait lazily that the government take them in charge, unlike the African immigrants who are happy as long as they get bad but free social acommodation and can watch TV all day. In Australia in classes of Medicine in the University I went to, I heard from a reliable source, there were 1/3 of the students that are Chinese. That doesn't surprise me. When I was in Australia I was apalled at the fact that many of the Australians I met had very little "general knowledge" about medicine or anatomy (e.g. didn't know that their lever was on the right side of their belly). I found the (white) Australians to be good at sports and partying but usually had close to zero general knowledge (e.g. 2 persons out of 3 had no idea where Belgium was, when they knew it was a country at all !) In Belgium medicine is a much more popular subject to study than in Britain or Australia because doctors have high salaries (in the UK it is pretty much fixed by the NHS) and there is still a lot of prestige associated with the title. So the vast majority of medicine students are Belgian, but also French because of the quota limits in France (so many come to study in Belgium). I do not have the data, but from what I remember when I visited the medical faculty, among non-European immigrants it is Black Africans that are the most numerous (esp. Congolese, Rwandese or Burundese, the ex-colonies of Belgium). Medicine seems to be one of the most popular university subject for Black Africans, certainly because of all the health problems in these countries.
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