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**Rasklad** · 09-01-2012, 12:47 PM

Well I agree with you it is in Europe's interests to speak with one voice but with so many conflicting interests is it practical?

Spain was opposed to giving Kosovo its independence from Serbia but it went ahead and now Russia is using it as a precedence for the two break away areas of Georgia.

Russia could now use its diaspora in neighbouring countries as a pretext for annexing valuable strategic locations. There is a European precedent for this already and Russia knows how to instigate and take advantage of this.
{Have the Russian minority in a neighbouring country agitate for independence, start a conflict with the host country (whether real or purley propaganda) send in the "peacekeepers" and simply refuse to remove them while weathering the international political storm, safe in the knowledge that Europe will dither.}

I know M you feel strongly that if an area wants its independence from a country then referendums should be held and independence granted and its a very noble stand but I'm not sure its always that straight forward. For example if a large Muslim population formed in lets say Brussels and at some point declared it self independent of Belgium, you could see no problem with that?

09-01-2012, 12:47 PM	#3
Rasklad Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 390 Senior Member	Well I agree with you it is in Europe's interests to speak with one voice but with so many conflicting interests is it practical? Spain was opposed to giving Kosovo its independence from Serbia but it went ahead and now Russia is using it as a precedence for the two break away areas of Georgia. Russia could now use its diaspora in neighbouring countries as a pretext for annexing valuable strategic locations. There is a European precedent for this already and Russia knows how to instigate and take advantage of this. {Have the Russian minority in a neighbouring country agitate for independence, start a conflict with the host country (whether real or purley propaganda) send in the "peacekeepers" and simply refuse to remove them while weathering the international political storm, safe in the knowledge that Europe will dither.} I know M you feel strongly that if an area wants its independence from a country then referendums should be held and independence granted and its a very noble stand but I'm not sure its always that straight forward. For example if a large Muslim population formed in lets say Brussels and at some point declared it self independent of Belgium, you could see no problem with that?
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