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**pIp83Uns** · 09-01-2012, 12:47 PM

This sort of discussion is going nowhere. There has been enough arguments between Spaniards and Mexicans lately. I am closing this thread. Please don't start another one of the same kind.

Just my two cents though to explain why it is a pointless debate.

Mexicans (or citizens other Latin American countries) could see Spain as the nation that colonised it, therefore as the aggressor. Spaniards could reply that the Spaniards who participated in the colonisation process actually left Spain to settle in the Americas, and that therefore their descendants are exclusively Americans today. However, neither is totally true or false. Not all conquistadors, adventurers or colonisers stayed in America. Some made a fortune and went back to Spain to spend it. But most did stay and, in many cases, take local wives.

Therefore a lot of modern Mexicans (or Colombians or Peruvians) have mixed European and Native American ancestry. They could have mixed feelings about it, but they wouldn't be alive today if history hadn't happened exactly the way it did. This is true for everybody in the world. A very little change of events can have dramatic consequences on the unfolding of future events, with effects building up over time.

Not everybody in Latin America is a mestizo either. There are Mexicans who are 100% of European descent, although they are a minority. I don't see the point of Spaniards in arguing about skin colour or ancestry being different from Latin Americans, since there are Latin Americans who are just as genetically Spanish/European as themselves. And there are Black Africans who have come Spanish, or French or British in Europe. Just look at the French national football team; half of them are black ! If you made a weighed average of ancestry by national football team, many Latin American countries would be more European than the French or some other European teams. So posting pictures of sport teams is also irrelevant to show what people look like in a country, as one can also cherry-pick photos on the Internet. So whatever the argument, I don't see what is trying to be proven and anyway it is bound to go in circles.

09-01-2012, 12:47 PM	#3
pIp83Uns Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 530 Senior Member	This sort of discussion is going nowhere. There has been enough arguments between Spaniards and Mexicans lately. I am closing this thread. Please don't start another one of the same kind. Just my two cents though to explain why it is a pointless debate. Mexicans (or citizens other Latin American countries) could see Spain as the nation that colonised it, therefore as the aggressor. Spaniards could reply that the Spaniards who participated in the colonisation process actually left Spain to settle in the Americas, and that therefore their descendants are exclusively Americans today. However, neither is totally true or false. Not all conquistadors, adventurers or colonisers stayed in America. Some made a fortune and went back to Spain to spend it. But most did stay and, in many cases, take local wives. Therefore a lot of modern Mexicans (or Colombians or Peruvians) have mixed European and Native American ancestry. They could have mixed feelings about it, but they wouldn't be alive today if history hadn't happened exactly the way it did. This is true for everybody in the world. A very little change of events can have dramatic consequences on the unfolding of future events, with effects building up over time. Not everybody in Latin America is a mestizo either. There are Mexicans who are 100% of European descent, although they are a minority. I don't see the point of Spaniards in arguing about skin colour or ancestry being different from Latin Americans, since there are Latin Americans who are just as genetically Spanish/European as themselves. And there are Black Africans who have come Spanish, or French or British in Europe. Just look at the French national football team; half of them are black ! If you made a weighed average of ancestry by national football team, many Latin American countries would be more European than the French or some other European teams. So posting pictures of sport teams is also irrelevant to show what people look like in a country, as one can also cherry-pick photos on the Internet. So whatever the argument, I don't see what is trying to be proven and anyway it is bound to go in circles.
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