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**iuopyra** · 09-01-2012, 12:47 PM

Whenever voter turnout is mentioned to be low the media talk about this being a negative thing.
I don't see how democracy can work if you have people voting who don't care and don't understand the implications of what voting for one or the other would actually means.

I not sure about ideas of voter equality, that a man who can barely read or write, has never worked a day in his life and is living on the dole has the same voting weight as someone who runs their own business, employs people, has a university education and is paying thousands in tax a year.

The problem is that democracy was founded on the mistaken Christian belief that all human beings are born equal before God and therefore should have perfectly equal rights. The truth is nobody is equal, neither in abilities, nor in experience, nor in open-mindedness, nor in altruism, nor in motivation to participate in a democratic system... That's also why it is so hard to come up with a better system.

Often when speaking to people about politics it is remarkable how their only reference point for their opinions is something they saw on tv or read in a paper. "Well it must be right 'cause the paper said so"

These are people without an opinion of their own, the simple-minded, credulous and sheepish masses I was referring to above. They are the people who are endangering the future of democracy because they can be so easily manipulated by the media.

how it's a scandal that tax payers are out of pocket on Northern Rock with the government loosing money in the sell off while retaining all the toxic debt. They should have done like in Belgium with Dexia; the government nationalise all that was good and left all the toxic assets to shareholders (including many Belgian families who had invested in what used to be considered a safe company) !

09-01-2012, 12:47 PM	#4
iuopyra Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 418 Senior Member	Whenever voter turnout is mentioned to be low the media talk about this being a negative thing. I don't see how democracy can work if you have people voting who don't care and don't understand the implications of what voting for one or the other would actually means. I not sure about ideas of voter equality, that a man who can barely read or write, has never worked a day in his life and is living on the dole has the same voting weight as someone who runs their own business, employs people, has a university education and is paying thousands in tax a year. The problem is that democracy was founded on the mistaken Christian belief that all human beings are born equal before God and therefore should have perfectly equal rights. The truth is nobody is equal, neither in abilities, nor in experience, nor in open-mindedness, nor in altruism, nor in motivation to participate in a democratic system... That's also why it is so hard to come up with a better system. Often when speaking to people about politics it is remarkable how their only reference point for their opinions is something they saw on tv or read in a paper. "Well it must be right 'cause the paper said so" These are people without an opinion of their own, the simple-minded, credulous and sheepish masses I was referring to above. They are the people who are endangering the future of democracy because they can be so easily manipulated by the media. how it's a scandal that tax payers are out of pocket on Northern Rock with the government loosing money in the sell off while retaining all the toxic debt. They should have done like in Belgium with Dexia; the government nationalise all that was good and left all the toxic assets to shareholders (including many Belgian families who had invested in what used to be considered a safe company) !
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