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**lasadeykar** · 12-06-2011, 03:57 PM

The services don't change or make laws...they follow them. Active duty personnel are rarely in a position to challenge laws.

It is a right to not be arbitrarily discriminated against. This argument that "there is no right to serve" is completely flawed. There is no right to work at Dominoes...is Dominoes there free to discriminate against blacks, women and jews? There is no right to live at 193 Elm St....is the seller of 193 Elm St. therefore free to refuse to sell to Christians? Etc., etc.

Yes, and it should go away.

Are you saying that this would force women into the infantry when men are not? What is your point. You seem to agree with the goal of the Law School Team (to open up combat to women), but are trying hard to disagree with them.

It wasn't the "services" that up and decided to allow women...

I honestly don't care if they do or they don't. I think they "should" open it up. My point on the forcing is that some people have commented in the past that if it is opened up, then you're going to get women that don't want to be infantry at infantry AIT and "ruining" it or some weird shit.

Yes I agree with the goal - however, I don't agree with the way or the reason they're doing it. In a different article this student law team (students who haven't ever served) say it's violating our "constitutional right" by not letting women be infantry. THAT is where I get irritated. There is no constitutional right to serve. So their basis is a little naive I feel.

But to change the law, Congress should take into account the services. They did with DADT (no matter what some people say about that survey). I'm saying that don't do it at this minute or at least make sure we're at a position we (the military) can handle it. I think women have shown they can handle combat. Let those who are qualified have those jobs - just like you let the men who are qualified have combat MOSs. (Well most of the time).

12-06-2011, 03:57 PM	#4
lasadeykar Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 571 Senior Member	The services don't change or make laws...they follow them. Active duty personnel are rarely in a position to challenge laws. It is a right to not be arbitrarily discriminated against. This argument that "there is no right to serve" is completely flawed. There is no right to work at Dominoes...is Dominoes there free to discriminate against blacks, women and jews? There is no right to live at 193 Elm St....is the seller of 193 Elm St. therefore free to refuse to sell to Christians? Etc., etc. Yes, and it should go away. Are you saying that this would force women into the infantry when men are not? What is your point. You seem to agree with the goal of the Law School Team (to open up combat to women), but are trying hard to disagree with them. It wasn't the "services" that up and decided to allow women... I honestly don't care if they do or they don't. I think they "should" open it up. My point on the forcing is that some people have commented in the past that if it is opened up, then you're going to get women that don't want to be infantry at infantry AIT and "ruining" it or some weird shit. Yes I agree with the goal - however, I don't agree with the way or the reason they're doing it. In a different article this student law team (students who haven't ever served) say it's violating our "constitutional right" by not letting women be infantry. THAT is where I get irritated. There is no constitutional right to serve. So their basis is a little naive I feel. But to change the law, Congress should take into account the services. They did with DADT (no matter what some people say about that survey). I'm saying that don't do it at this minute or at least make sure we're at a position we (the military) can handle it. I think women have shown they can handle combat. Let those who are qualified have those jobs - just like you let the men who are qualified have combat MOSs. (Well most of the time).
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