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**flueftArete** · 11-16-2011, 07:34 PM

It looks pretty bad, I'll give ya that. But still, whether it's eight or eighty there is still a "He said, she said" element to be taken into consideration, and I have known an adult or two who might make an exaggerated claim against another adult for any offense based on a combination of over-protectiveness or who knows what combination of reasons. It's also possible and even likely that they might find others in a similar situation and come at it as a group to make the situation appear even worse. What motive would they have? It depends I suppose, I know other adults have approached my wife complaining that his pre-school was teaching my son to take his clothes off and put them back on. I basically responded to the effect of "Big surprise, he's a toddler and that would be a good skill for him to have, don't go blowing it out of proportion." His circumstances are different of course, but there may be some mitigating factors we're not already aware of (maybe he had volunteer ties in the local community, for instance, that had him working regularly with younger children.) I just know it's very easy for grown adults to blow things out of proportion and I deem that worthy of individual consideration. Predators exist out there, doesn't mean I'm ready to go Salem Witch Hunt on them for the cause of protecting the innocent.

Yes it is a "he said, she said" situation. I do think though the fact it took the grand jury two years to investigate this and then release the information seems like they went to at least some lengths to determine what was going on.

Key word is adults - yes the alleged victims are now adults but they were kids when it happened. The one referred to as victim 1 not sure how old he is now or how long after it happened before he came forward. But I do know that anyone who is a victim of sexual abuse it's very hard for him or her to report it or face the perpetrator.

I just think it needs to be found out what happened and Sandusky seriously needs help. Yes some adults take things too far and look for wrongdoing but in this case - look at it this way.

Say your kid was in this Second Mile group or any organization that has mentors, etc. Say he says something taking showers with one of the adults, or that an adult there touched his legs and kept doing it, or that an adult hugged him while both were naked in the showers. Wouldn't you be concerned? I would be and the first thing I'd do is go to the cops.

That's why when I hear that McQeary says he saw a boy getting raped, why wouldn't he physically stop it? We can always say "hindsight" but if I ever saw anyone being assaulted or raped, I'm going to either stop it, distract the attacker or pull out my phone and call the cops to get there and catch the person.

I just think Sandusky honestly needs some help. Some wires are crossed in his brain somewhere.

11-16-2011, 07:34 PM	#14
flueftArete Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 437 Senior Member	It looks pretty bad, I'll give ya that. But still, whether it's eight or eighty there is still a "He said, she said" element to be taken into consideration, and I have known an adult or two who might make an exaggerated claim against another adult for any offense based on a combination of over-protectiveness or who knows what combination of reasons. It's also possible and even likely that they might find others in a similar situation and come at it as a group to make the situation appear even worse. What motive would they have? It depends I suppose, I know other adults have approached my wife complaining that his pre-school was teaching my son to take his clothes off and put them back on. I basically responded to the effect of "Big surprise, he's a toddler and that would be a good skill for him to have, don't go blowing it out of proportion." His circumstances are different of course, but there may be some mitigating factors we're not already aware of (maybe he had volunteer ties in the local community, for instance, that had him working regularly with younger children.) I just know it's very easy for grown adults to blow things out of proportion and I deem that worthy of individual consideration. Predators exist out there, doesn't mean I'm ready to go Salem Witch Hunt on them for the cause of protecting the innocent. Yes it is a "he said, she said" situation. I do think though the fact it took the grand jury two years to investigate this and then release the information seems like they went to at least some lengths to determine what was going on. Key word is adults - yes the alleged victims are now adults but they were kids when it happened. The one referred to as victim 1 not sure how old he is now or how long after it happened before he came forward. But I do know that anyone who is a victim of sexual abuse it's very hard for him or her to report it or face the perpetrator. I just think it needs to be found out what happened and Sandusky seriously needs help. Yes some adults take things too far and look for wrongdoing but in this case - look at it this way. Say your kid was in this Second Mile group or any organization that has mentors, etc. Say he says something taking showers with one of the adults, or that an adult there touched his legs and kept doing it, or that an adult hugged him while both were naked in the showers. Wouldn't you be concerned? I would be and the first thing I'd do is go to the cops. That's why when I hear that McQeary says he saw a boy getting raped, why wouldn't he physically stop it? We can always say "hindsight" but if I ever saw anyone being assaulted or raped, I'm going to either stop it, distract the attacker or pull out my phone and call the cops to get there and catch the person. I just think Sandusky honestly needs some help. Some wires are crossed in his brain somewhere.
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