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**cheesypeetyz** · 11-04-2011, 10:37 PM

Well, not quite. Technically, the terms "White American" and "Black American/African American" are ethnicities. As we all know, ethnicity and race are not synonymous.

For example, a Latino can be racially white, black, or whatever; but their ethnicity is Latino. Kazakhs can look be as white as a European or as Asian as a Chinese person, but ethnically, they're Kazakhs.

Converse examples are true as well. For all I know, you can be "German," Shrike could be "Irish," and WildJokers could be "Polish," and as far as I know, I'm just a WASP (but without the "P" since I'm atheist). But, culturally - there's really no difference between us. We're white, we're in America, we eat similar foods, and we listen to genres of music that originated in the US - there's nothing German or Irish about us.

This brings me to the overall point - seeing as how ethnicity can operate independently of race, being of a particular race is not a pre-requisite to be a part of an ethnicity.

Cain might be racially black, but he's ethnically white.

Umm, "Latino" is the Ethnicity, White or Black are terms of "race". You were partially right. "American" is a term of nationality. Your point though is flawed, people may choose not to use the "racial terms" of "black" or "white" as the descriptor, but it is still nonetheless a part of the package whether someone chose to include it or not.

11-04-2011, 10:37 PM	#20
cheesypeetyz Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 481 Senior Member	Well, not quite. Technically, the terms "White American" and "Black American/African American" are ethnicities. As we all know, ethnicity and race are not synonymous. For example, a Latino can be racially white, black, or whatever; but their ethnicity is Latino. Kazakhs can look be as white as a European or as Asian as a Chinese person, but ethnically, they're Kazakhs. Converse examples are true as well. For all I know, you can be "German," Shrike could be "Irish," and WildJokers could be "Polish," and as far as I know, I'm just a WASP (but without the "P" since I'm atheist). But, culturally - there's really no difference between us. We're white, we're in America, we eat similar foods, and we listen to genres of music that originated in the US - there's nothing German or Irish about us. This brings me to the overall point - seeing as how ethnicity can operate independently of race, being of a particular race is not a pre-requisite to be a part of an ethnicity. Cain might be racially black, but he's ethnically white. Umm, "Latino" is the Ethnicity, White or Black are terms of "race". You were partially right. "American" is a term of nationality. Your point though is flawed, people may choose not to use the "racial terms" of "black" or "white" as the descriptor, but it is still nonetheless a part of the package whether someone chose to include it or not.
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