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**Hamucevasiop** · 10-01-2011, 04:24 AM

And what do you think it takes to "put yourself in those positions"?

We know next to nothing about this guy, and there wasn't even a pretense of providing actual evidence. Now maybe in this case he was a bad person, but that doesn't make ignoring the process okay.

And this ties in perfectly with our "No Fly List" Gestapo crap. You can be put on the No Fly list for pretty much any reason with no judicial process... you might not even KNOW you're on the no-fly list until you try to buy a plane ticket. There have been documented cases of people leaving the USA for business or family, and not being able to return because some cook in the FBI decided he might be a "terrorist".

And how about customs? You come home from some trip overseas, and the schmuck searching your belongings decides your $2000 laptop is "evidence" and confiscates it. It'll be weeks or months before you ever see that sucker again... assuming you ever see it again at all

On the domestic side, there's our seizure laws, which allows law enforcement during a criminal investigation to seize private property, whether or not any charges are filed against you, or anybody. That $5000 of electronics the cops seized from your house while searching it? Just kiss it goodbye. You're not going to see it again.

And if you decide to take a picture or video of your civil rights being trampled? Good luck with that. There are countless cases of police, FBI, TSA, etc arresting or verbally/physically assaulting people attempting to video their activity... and of course confiscating the camera. Hope you didn't spend too much money on that thing... you're never going to see it again.

All the while making us "safer" from the scary Muslims. Move along sheeple. Nothing to see here.

10-01-2011, 04:24 AM	#14
Hamucevasiop Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 575 Senior Member	And what do you think it takes to "put yourself in those positions"? We know next to nothing about this guy, and there wasn't even a pretense of providing actual evidence. Now maybe in this case he was a bad person, but that doesn't make ignoring the process okay. And this ties in perfectly with our "No Fly List" Gestapo crap. You can be put on the No Fly list for pretty much any reason with no judicial process... you might not even KNOW you're on the no-fly list until you try to buy a plane ticket. There have been documented cases of people leaving the USA for business or family, and not being able to return because some cook in the FBI decided he might be a "terrorist". And how about customs? You come home from some trip overseas, and the schmuck searching your belongings decides your $2000 laptop is "evidence" and confiscates it. It'll be weeks or months before you ever see that sucker again... assuming you ever see it again at all On the domestic side, there's our seizure laws, which allows law enforcement during a criminal investigation to seize private property, whether or not any charges are filed against you, or anybody. That $5000 of electronics the cops seized from your house while searching it? Just kiss it goodbye. You're not going to see it again. And if you decide to take a picture or video of your civil rights being trampled? Good luck with that. There are countless cases of police, FBI, TSA, etc arresting or verbally/physically assaulting people attempting to video their activity... and of course confiscating the camera. Hope you didn't spend too much money on that thing... you're never going to see it again. All the while making us "safer" from the scary Muslims. Move along sheeple. Nothing to see here.
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