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Old 08-28-2009, 01:38 AM   #9
rolex-buy

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Vets!!! If you are paying taxes then you are NOT getting handouts. That's pretty much saying that individuals that are on Medicare and Medicaid (which is paid for by taxation) are getting handouts. A handout is something I can get for free without having to pay anyone back. According to Mirriam-Webster a handout is defined as: a portion of food, clothing, or money given to or as if to a begger. There are vets who milk the system just as there are civilians that milk the hell out of Medicaid and Medicare. The VA system was not prepared for the extensive case loads and casualites from OIF/OEF. The VA didn't get like this in the last few months and it won't be fixed in the next few months. When you sign up for the military you are told of all the benefits you receive for serving. When I'm no longer on active duty I would expect for them to hold up their end of the deal. I hope when PIOXEN is done serving on active duty he or she receives the benefits he or she is entitled to. Many young vets are capable of taking care of themselves just as many of the aren't. There are individuals who have lost limbs, mental stability from someting that they have seen, lost sight of reality, and additional issues due to FOW. Some of them are homeless. And to say they brought it upon themselves really shows your lack of intelligence. A Marine I served with saw a body get cut in half( I didn't witness it). He maintains a job, takes care of his family and takes a shit load of meds. We were getting beers for a party when a giant dump truck passed by. He needed a little bit of time to get his senses together because it sound similar to the 7 ton. Some homeless vets aren't so lucky. Now there are vets who are homeless due to just not wanting to get a damn job. BUT to group ALL vets that are homeless as deserving of being homeless is CRAZY. To the service members that do not hold up there end of the bargain and get a dishonorable discharge shouldn't get SH)&. The government can't do everything for but what little they can do for me I'll take it.(because I held up my end of the deal). MPLIsa you stated,"Fourth, ALL vets should be working hard to educate themselves formally, and getting involved in government, so that someday we can return the governance of this nation to those that actually understand freedom, liberty, sacrifice, honor, duty, courage, country, and respect". When you say return the governance of this nation to those that actually understand freedom, liberty, etc. is implying that the country was taken away by those who don't understand freedom, liberty, etc. The American voters decided who would run this nation. Our country wasn't taken by anyone. It's called a Democracy. I gave our former Commander-and-Chief President Bush the benefit of doubt(I did vote for). I will give the current Commander-and-Chief President Obama the same courtesy until he proves otherwise. Someone on here stated that words from Obama are meaningless. Unfortunately that statement applies to all politicians. It's natural for older vets and younger vets to be divided(generation gap). My grandfather served and our views differ.
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