Not everyone who drinks is an ********, Bungle. Because not everyone who drinks gets drunk. Drunk to me is when it's too much, like 8 pints one evening or whatever, it varies. The effects of alcohol aren't like flicking a switch though. It's possible to have a few drinks and remain in control while at the same time enjoying yourself more than you would have. If I got out for a few with my girlfriend we'll both drink and get a taxi rather than one of us drive, because being sober around people who've had a drink is not fun. In moderation Bungle, in moderation.