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**ATTILAGLIC** · 07-27-2012, 09:36 PM

Ok, thanks for the clarifications. So a creature isn't a creature until it resolves, and therefore can't be targeted by a "damage creature" instant until it leaves the stack. To target it on the stack, it has to be a counterspell.

Did I get that right?

Yep you got it! Except it doesn't necessarily have to be a counterspell, many other spells target things on the stack.

like for instance say you play an oblivion ring. The opponent can respond by vapor snagging their 1 lone creature thus forcing you to target your own creature with the o-ring.

Haha, or my favorite, put the O-ring ability on the stack targeting their creature, then boomerang the O-ring back to your hand in response. The leaves-play trigger goes on the stack on top of the enters play ability and resolves first, and then their creature is just permanently exiled and you still have an O-ring in your hand.

07-27-2012, 09:36 PM	#11
ATTILAGLIC Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 551 Senior Member	Ok, thanks for the clarifications. So a creature isn't a creature until it resolves, and therefore can't be targeted by a "damage creature" instant until it leaves the stack. To target it on the stack, it has to be a counterspell. Did I get that right? Yep you got it! Except it doesn't necessarily have to be a counterspell, many other spells target things on the stack. like for instance say you play an oblivion ring. The opponent can respond by vapor snagging their 1 lone creature thus forcing you to target your own creature with the o-ring. Haha, or my favorite, put the O-ring ability on the stack targeting their creature, then boomerang the O-ring back to your hand in response. The leaves-play trigger goes on the stack on top of the enters play ability and resolves first, and then their creature is just permanently exiled and you still have an O-ring in your hand.
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