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**C7JjVczP** · 06-16-2012, 02:00 AM

If you perhaps want to discuss the benefits of modern space exploration over a pretentious bit of paint splattered on a canvas 3000 years ago: batter up. Iraq did think they had a chance against the UN troops at one point too.

Canvas wasn't introduced as a support for painting until about the 15th century in the Netherlands. Imbecile.

Learn to read. The overwhelming majority of space exploration these days is achieved through Earth-based observation and satellites/rovers.

There is no question in the mind of any educated person that the vast output of literature, film, arts, music, and architecture--in effect, the sum of human civilization--has infinitely greater instrumental and intrinsic value than sending a few astronauts to tinker about in a tin can in space or planting a flag on a piece of orbiting rock. One enriches the lives of billions of people, the other benefits no one and is wasteful propaganda held over from the Sputnik era.

So I suggest you stick to watching your inspirational videos courtesy of Dr. Tyson and leave this discussion to those of us who aren't entirely clueless about astronomy or the arts.

The ISS is a unique environment for conducting a multitude of experients in microgravity - many of which are essential for furthering our understanding, before we are in a position to send humans further afield. Think of it as a stepping stone to bigger things.

Most of the ad hoc experiments were devised to justify the enormous costs for the ISS and not for their own sake. We've learned a great deal about human survivability in space, but that's about it. There are literally thousands of far more cost-effective research programs that are denied funding because the lionshare of the pie goes to manned space flights.

06-16-2012, 02:00 AM	#38
C7JjVczP Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 429 Senior Member	If you perhaps want to discuss the benefits of modern space exploration over a pretentious bit of paint splattered on a canvas 3000 years ago: batter up. Iraq did think they had a chance against the UN troops at one point too. Canvas wasn't introduced as a support for painting until about the 15th century in the Netherlands. Imbecile. Learn to read. The overwhelming majority of space exploration these days is achieved through Earth-based observation and satellites/rovers. There is no question in the mind of any educated person that the vast output of literature, film, arts, music, and architecture--in effect, the sum of human civilization--has infinitely greater instrumental and intrinsic value than sending a few astronauts to tinker about in a tin can in space or planting a flag on a piece of orbiting rock. One enriches the lives of billions of people, the other benefits no one and is wasteful propaganda held over from the Sputnik era. So I suggest you stick to watching your inspirational videos courtesy of Dr. Tyson and leave this discussion to those of us who aren't entirely clueless about astronomy or the arts. The ISS is a unique environment for conducting a multitude of experients in microgravity - many of which are essential for furthering our understanding, before we are in a position to send humans further afield. Think of it as a stepping stone to bigger things. Most of the ad hoc experiments were devised to justify the enormous costs for the ISS and not for their own sake. We've learned a great deal about human survivability in space, but that's about it. There are literally thousands of far more cost-effective research programs that are denied funding because the lionshare of the pie goes to manned space flights.
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