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**grofvuri** · 05-07-2012, 02:48 AM

You don't know what you're talking about. I say again WE did not star the war, Argentina did.

How are their claims "legitimate"? When the UK gained possession of the Falklands Argentina didn't even exist as a country.

The General Belgrano was an enemy vessel and so was a legitimate target. Even the Argentinians have accepted this. The exclusion zone was for neutral vessels.

I ask again, if a foreign power invaded Alaska would you expect your government to stand by and do nothing?

I doubt he'll ever admit to any contrary viewpoints, Bungle, especially when he's wrong.
Alaska isn't that good an example, as it was bought, not won by 'conquest'.
A better example would be Spain* sending a military force to puerto Rico and claiming it as a Spanish colony.

According to Wiki', Argentina was 'founded' in 1412. That's when Christopher Colombus arrived to America and "found" it. "Argentina" declared the independence from Spain in 1816, and the first constitution was established in 1853.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Argentina

Seems, if anything, the Dutch may have the best claim -
"Controversy exists as to who first discovered the Falkland Islands, with competing Portuguese, Spanish, and British claims in the 16th century.[13][14] While Amerindians from Patagonia could have visited the Falklands,[15] the islands were uninhabited when discovered by Europeans.[16] The first reliable sighting is usually attributed to the Dutch explorer Sebald de Weert in 1600, who named the archipelago the Sebald Islands, a name they bore on Dutch maps into the 19th century.[17]"
Regardless, it would certainly seem the discovery of the islands pre-dated the existence of Argentina as a country and was around the time when the mainland was still a Spanish colony.

[source] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falkland_Islands

Spara', how are you on the Highland clearances? With your alleged French background, I'm not surprised you see surrender of a country's legal territories and abandoning it's citizens as the preferred option.

[edit] Spara', the difference is that the colonies had the chance to vote for their own independence, the Falkland Islanders DID NOT wish to be anything other than a British territory and certainly did NOT wish it to be allied by a foreign country on them - that you cannot grasp this basic difference says a lot about you!

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grofvuri Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 423 Senior Member	You don't know what you're talking about. I say again WE did not star the war, Argentina did. How are their claims "legitimate"? When the UK gained possession of the Falklands Argentina didn't even exist as a country. The General Belgrano was an enemy vessel and so was a legitimate target. Even the Argentinians have accepted this. The exclusion zone was for neutral vessels. I ask again, if a foreign power invaded Alaska would you expect your government to stand by and do nothing? I doubt he'll ever admit to any contrary viewpoints, Bungle, especially when he's wrong. Alaska isn't that good an example, as it was bought, not won by 'conquest'. A better example would be Spain* sending a military force to puerto Rico and claiming it as a Spanish colony. According to Wiki', Argentina was 'founded' in 1412. That's when Christopher Colombus arrived to America and "found" it. "Argentina" declared the independence from Spain in 1816, and the first constitution was established in 1853. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Argentina Seems, if anything, the Dutch may have the best claim - "Controversy exists as to who first discovered the Falkland Islands, with competing Portuguese, Spanish, and British claims in the 16th century.[13][14] While Amerindians from Patagonia could have visited the Falklands,[15] the islands were uninhabited when discovered by Europeans.[16] The first reliable sighting is usually attributed to the Dutch explorer Sebald de Weert in 1600, who named the archipelago the Sebald Islands, a name they bore on Dutch maps into the 19th century.[17]" Regardless, it would certainly seem the discovery of the islands pre-dated the existence of Argentina as a country and was around the time when the mainland was still a Spanish colony. [source] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falkland_Islands Spara', how are you on the Highland clearances? With your alleged French background, I'm not surprised you see surrender of a country's legal territories and abandoning it's citizens as the preferred option. [edit] Spara', the difference is that the colonies had the chance to vote for their own independence, the Falkland Islanders DID NOT wish to be anything other than a British territory and certainly did NOT wish it to be allied by a foreign country on them - that you cannot grasp this basic difference says a lot about you!
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