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**aabbaDE** · 08-27-2012, 03:35 AM

Muslims never required foreign invaders to go on the war path. That part of recent history in the ME is only one point to see. There are millions of other factors at play. Let's not pretend that we know exactly what would have changed history. Let's stick to talking about the world as it is and what we have to do going forward.

I don't believe that. We support their autocrats and we even install our own..

Action and reaction, cause and effect.

They have every reason under the sun to hate us.. We've given it to them.

Pretending otherwise and continuing down this same, ruinous path, isn't going to get us anywhere.

In the absence of US provocation, we'd have a just war.. That's something I could support wholeheartedly, as long as the goal was attrition, retribution and degradation.

08-27-2012, 03:35 AM	#19
aabbaDE Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 329 Senior Member	Muslims never required foreign invaders to go on the war path. That part of recent history in the ME is only one point to see. There are millions of other factors at play. Let's not pretend that we know exactly what would have changed history. Let's stick to talking about the world as it is and what we have to do going forward. I don't believe that. We support their autocrats and we even install our own.. Action and reaction, cause and effect. They have every reason under the sun to hate us.. We've given it to them. Pretending otherwise and continuing down this same, ruinous path, isn't going to get us anywhere. In the absence of US provocation, we'd have a just war.. That's something I could support wholeheartedly, as long as the goal was attrition, retribution and degradation.
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