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**RuttyUttepe** · 07-21-2012, 07:11 PM

He is beyond credibility at this point. I know he is lying with just about everything he says, so I don't even want to hear him talk about stuff that it's impossible to lie about. I got to this point with Bush and Clinton as well, so it's not surprising. My good "Radical Centrist" friend would take me to task for this and call me "close minded," at which point I would tell him to look at what Obama is doing, not at what he is saying.

07-21-2012, 07:11 PM	#21
RuttyUttepe Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 430 Senior Member	He is beyond credibility at this point. I know he is lying with just about everything he says, so I don't even want to hear him talk about stuff that it's impossible to lie about. I got to this point with Bush and Clinton as well, so it's not surprising. My good "Radical Centrist" friend would take me to task for this and call me "close minded," at which point I would tell him to look at what Obama is doing, not at what he is saying.
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