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**retyopj** · 06-14-2012, 11:18 PM

And, yeah Holston.. I think 9/11 stinks too.

Our behavior following the attack is all the proof I need.

But, the point is that, there were a lot of people who joined the military at that time for completely pure reasons.. And I don't fault them.

They just didn't know any better and NATURALLY assumed they would be defending the US.

They thought this because they are young and pure at heart.. And there's nothing to find fault with there.

Their leaders are another matter, however.

Don't misunderstand. I was one of those who believed what we were being told. The idea that anyone officially representing the US government would lie to me never entered my head. I believed the testimony that Colin Powell gave about the WMDs and "yellow cake". I believed the possibility of a dirty bomb was a real possibility.

What's equally as important, I was more familiar with the ideas of Muslims and how fanatical some of them could be so I never doubted that they were behind 9/11 and responsible for it.

It was not until much later that I begin to hear things that caused me to investigate these matters myself. Now I am convinced that we were deceived. I do not blame the boys who responded to the call anymore than I blame myself.

This is why a spend so much time in trying to relate at least some of what I have learned on the net in the hopes that others will begin to question what they hear and see on the mainstream media and then look into these matters themselves.

I have said time and again, although some people choose to ignore it, that when I speak of the "Jews" it is not out of some sort of personal animosity. No matter how many times I try to emphasize this point, my detractors here still try to make me appear to be motivated by "anti-semitism". They can not prove this by the material that I post. Nor have they offered any credible refutations for the assertions that have been made. So all they can do is try to give the impression that is all nonsense by simply calling me names and hoping that the uninformed reader will not take the time to see for himself.

The fact is, that the "Jewish" community in this country have quite a set up going for them. The majority of them are aware of it because they enjoy the privileges and benefits that they derive from it. Therefore they do not want the system that provides them these advantages to become widely known for fear that people will put an end to it.

I have emphasized that when I am speaking of "Jews", I am referring to the ethnocentric union that exists on behalf of the "Jews" nationally and internationally which forms a huge interlocking political entity.

This does not mean that I am encouraging people to single out any particular individual(s) for mistreatment or discrimination. It does not mean that I am attempting to incite hatred against people of certain racial characteristics or religious professions. It does not even mean that I think that someone like Kleinbox, bless his pea pickin' heart should be sent to a concentration camp or a goat farm.

What it DOES mean is that I believe that the US public NEEDS to be made aware of a huge criminal enterprise that hides itself behind the shield of what is called "Judaism", whether these people "practice" this religion or not.

These mob bosses and money changers are profiting immensely at the expense of the US. And they are being shielded by people like Kleinbox who perhaps innocently enough sees any criticism lodged against Zionists or their affiliates as some sort of personal assault which lacks any basis other than some possible physical characteristics or perhaps a "liberal" leaning attitude about social attitudes.

People need to develop a realistic picture of what is happening around us. This is not easy to do under the best of circumstances. It is especially hard to do when the truth is either being withheld or distorted by a media who is also living in the lap of the luxury afforded to the 'politically correct' crowd.

This latter type of ideologue may really believe that his point of view is the only 'right' way to see things based on humanitarian principles. There is no doubt some element of truth to such ideation. What they may be neglecting, is the possibility for despotic or criminally minded people to use such beliefs in order to manipulate people in masses in ways which profit themselves.

We see what socialists in power have done in Europe. We see how the money lenders have usurped power away from elected officials to themselves.

Yet people like Kleinbox or doctorno do not want to see any of this or admit to any of it for fear of the "anti-semitic" boogey man that they have had drilled into their heads. That's if they are honest in their intentions to preserve the status quo.

I personally believe that if this country is going to pride itself for standing on principle, then we are going to have to abide by those principles. This means looking squarely at the truth and trying to see what is actually there rather than simply what we want to see or only what we believe will profit ourselves, even at the cost of losing whatever freedoms we have or destroying the entire nation in the effort to obtain personal wealth.

06-14-2012, 11:18 PM	#22
retyopj Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 477 Senior Member	And, yeah Holston.. I think 9/11 stinks too. Our behavior following the attack is all the proof I need. But, the point is that, there were a lot of people who joined the military at that time for completely pure reasons.. And I don't fault them. They just didn't know any better and NATURALLY assumed they would be defending the US. They thought this because they are young and pure at heart.. And there's nothing to find fault with there. Their leaders are another matter, however. Don't misunderstand. I was one of those who believed what we were being told. The idea that anyone officially representing the US government would lie to me never entered my head. I believed the testimony that Colin Powell gave about the WMDs and "yellow cake". I believed the possibility of a dirty bomb was a real possibility. What's equally as important, I was more familiar with the ideas of Muslims and how fanatical some of them could be so I never doubted that they were behind 9/11 and responsible for it. It was not until much later that I begin to hear things that caused me to investigate these matters myself. Now I am convinced that we were deceived. I do not blame the boys who responded to the call anymore than I blame myself. This is why a spend so much time in trying to relate at least some of what I have learned on the net in the hopes that others will begin to question what they hear and see on the mainstream media and then look into these matters themselves. I have said time and again, although some people choose to ignore it, that when I speak of the "Jews" it is not out of some sort of personal animosity. No matter how many times I try to emphasize this point, my detractors here still try to make me appear to be motivated by "anti-semitism". They can not prove this by the material that I post. Nor have they offered any credible refutations for the assertions that have been made. So all they can do is try to give the impression that is all nonsense by simply calling me names and hoping that the uninformed reader will not take the time to see for himself. The fact is, that the "Jewish" community in this country have quite a set up going for them. The majority of them are aware of it because they enjoy the privileges and benefits that they derive from it. Therefore they do not want the system that provides them these advantages to become widely known for fear that people will put an end to it. I have emphasized that when I am speaking of "Jews", I am referring to the ethnocentric union that exists on behalf of the "Jews" nationally and internationally which forms a huge interlocking political entity. This does not mean that I am encouraging people to single out any particular individual(s) for mistreatment or discrimination. It does not mean that I am attempting to incite hatred against people of certain racial characteristics or religious professions. It does not even mean that I think that someone like Kleinbox, bless his pea pickin' heart should be sent to a concentration camp or a goat farm. What it DOES mean is that I believe that the US public NEEDS to be made aware of a huge criminal enterprise that hides itself behind the shield of what is called "Judaism", whether these people "practice" this religion or not. These mob bosses and money changers are profiting immensely at the expense of the US. And they are being shielded by people like Kleinbox who perhaps innocently enough sees any criticism lodged against Zionists or their affiliates as some sort of personal assault which lacks any basis other than some possible physical characteristics or perhaps a "liberal" leaning attitude about social attitudes. People need to develop a realistic picture of what is happening around us. This is not easy to do under the best of circumstances. It is especially hard to do when the truth is either being withheld or distorted by a media who is also living in the lap of the luxury afforded to the 'politically correct' crowd. This latter type of ideologue may really believe that his point of view is the only 'right' way to see things based on humanitarian principles. There is no doubt some element of truth to such ideation. What they may be neglecting, is the possibility for despotic or criminally minded people to use such beliefs in order to manipulate people in masses in ways which profit themselves. We see what socialists in power have done in Europe. We see how the money lenders have usurped power away from elected officials to themselves. Yet people like Kleinbox or doctorno do not want to see any of this or admit to any of it for fear of the "anti-semitic" boogey man that they have had drilled into their heads. That's if they are honest in their intentions to preserve the status quo. I personally believe that if this country is going to pride itself for standing on principle, then we are going to have to abide by those principles. This means looking squarely at the truth and trying to see what is actually there rather than simply what we want to see or only what we believe will profit ourselves, even at the cost of losing whatever freedoms we have or destroying the entire nation in the effort to obtain personal wealth.
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