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**artofeyyy** · 11-21-2011, 05:32 PM

Many quantum experiments prove that stuff/matter exist only in a state of probability. for example, wave functions are an expression of the probability of where a particle may be. It is is only frozen in place when it is observed... This guy argues that the only observation that matters is that made by a biological being. What makes a biological being different from matter is that it has a consciousness, and we can all agree that consciousnes is not matter.

Thank you for the response, but you still haven’t answered my chicken or egg type question. Which is an epiphenomenon of the other, consciousness or matter? You state that Dr. Lanza believes that nothing is actualized into the material world until a measurement (observation) is made by a biological entity. Does this imply that matter (in the form of a biological brain) is primal? If matter only exists in a probabilty state until observed, then how can a biological entity preexist itself in order to make said observation?

Thank you.

11-21-2011, 05:32 PM	#28
artofeyyy Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 498 Senior Member	Many quantum experiments prove that stuff/matter exist only in a state of probability. for example, wave functions are an expression of the probability of where a particle may be. It is is only frozen in place when it is observed... This guy argues that the only observation that matters is that made by a biological being. What makes a biological being different from matter is that it has a consciousness, and we can all agree that consciousnes is not matter. Thank you for the response, but you still haven’t answered my chicken or egg type question. Which is an epiphenomenon of the other, consciousness or matter? You state that Dr. Lanza believes that nothing is actualized into the material world until a measurement (observation) is made by a biological entity. Does this imply that matter (in the form of a biological brain) is primal? If matter only exists in a probabilty state until observed, then how can a biological entity preexist itself in order to make said observation? Thank you.
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