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**CaseyFronczekHomie** · 09-03-2012, 11:21 PM

Assalamu alaikum,
How do the Shafi fiqh justify that saying tasmiyya is sunnah when it is a clear commandment in the Quran?

Salamu aleykum

I assume youre talking about this verse:
Eat not of (meats) on which Allah's name hath not been pronounced: That would be impiety. (6:121) Ibn Abbas radiya Allahu 'anhu said that the ayah implies that it is forbidden to eat animals that died by themselves (mayta) and animals that have been killed not by slaughter. 'Ata rahimahu Allah said that the verse is about eating animals who have been slaughtered in the name of an idol.

The shafi'is have interpreted "wa innahu lafisq" (that would be impiety) as it is explained in another verse in the same sura:
Say, "I do not find in the revelations given to me any food that is prohibited for any eater except: carrion, running blood, the meat of pigs, for it is contaminated, and the meat of animals blasphemously dedicated to other than God." [6:145] The arabic for "and the meat of animals blasphemously dedicated to other than God." is "aw fisqan uhilla li ghayri 'llah"
This ayah thus explains the meaning of fisq in ayah 121.

another evidence used by the shafi'is is the hadith of A'isha radiya Allahu anha, that muslims were giving them meat, but they didn't know if they had mentioned the name of Allah over it when they slaughtered, and the Prophet salla Allahu aleyhi wa sallam said that they should mention the name of Allah over it and eat it. If tasmiyyah was a condition it would not be allowed to eat the meat since the asl for meat is hurma.

All references are taken from al-Baghawis tafsir.

09-03-2012, 11:21 PM	#31
CaseyFronczekHomie Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 398 Senior Member	Assalamu alaikum, How do the Shafi fiqh justify that saying tasmiyya is sunnah when it is a clear commandment in the Quran? Salamu aleykum I assume youre talking about this verse: Eat not of (meats) on which Allah's name hath not been pronounced: That would be impiety. (6:121) Ibn Abbas radiya Allahu 'anhu said that the ayah implies that it is forbidden to eat animals that died by themselves (mayta) and animals that have been killed not by slaughter. 'Ata rahimahu Allah said that the verse is about eating animals who have been slaughtered in the name of an idol. The shafi'is have interpreted "wa innahu lafisq" (that would be impiety) as it is explained in another verse in the same sura: Say, "I do not find in the revelations given to me any food that is prohibited for any eater except: carrion, running blood, the meat of pigs, for it is contaminated, and the meat of animals blasphemously dedicated to other than God." [6:145] The arabic for "and the meat of animals blasphemously dedicated to other than God." is "aw fisqan uhilla li ghayri 'llah" This ayah thus explains the meaning of fisq in ayah 121. another evidence used by the shafi'is is the hadith of A'isha radiya Allahu anha, that muslims were giving them meat, but they didn't know if they had mentioned the name of Allah over it when they slaughtered, and the Prophet salla Allahu aleyhi wa sallam said that they should mention the name of Allah over it and eat it. If tasmiyyah was a condition it would not be allowed to eat the meat since the asl for meat is hurma. All references are taken from al-Baghawis tafsir.
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