[casinoboneerer]

whats the argument behind saying the turuq are not valid for these times?

That is the point the real question to ask and it is what is contentious about public speaker such as Hamza Yusuf.

There are very strong outward differences btwn a tariqa follower/adherent like Shiekh Nuh and a public speak such as Hamza Yusuf.


Pls do not remove this thread to the In-depth section.