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in fact, even Shaykh Nuh does not accept murids unless they are serious about doing the work of the tariq. And how many Muslims are?

Maybe I am mistaken or my eyes deceived but I have seen Sheikh Nuk Keller take bayat and accept mureeds in masses. It is not possible to know all these new initiates/mureeds and there level of committment in the deen. They are literally too many souls to know and the sheikh more than likely knows that. Thats why probably his bona fide mureeds are in Jordan.


The real question is not whether Tariqas are valid or not but whether Tariqa centered Values are compatable with Modern man?

-Individualism v. Authority

-Freedom of thought v. Taqleed

-Indivual Paths i.e. I make my own destiny, thoughts etc. v. Having a Spiritual Guide (Shiekh) "He who has no Shiekh, there Shaytan becomes their Sheikh"

-Demorcacy v. Spiritual Hierarchy

-Rationalism v. Intelligence (to discriminate btwn right and wrong is Intelligence and Revelation through Initiation via Tariqa nurtures Intelligence)

-Empricism v. Revelation and Continuity of Tradition

-Evolution (Progress) v. Devolution of Man (Man as a Fallen Being, made for Heaven but Temporarly on Earth longing for Heaven)