Quantity but no quality? Why do people grab onto the right shoulders? What is its significance? And when you say shaykh, are you refering to Kabbani? I was watching one of the vids on sufiLive and I saw one where a man and 2 women were singing songs with music (Click here and watch Part 1). How do you justify this? If I were to join this tariqah then it would only be because of the deeper understanding.