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Ml. Ilyas said that their souls are in jannah, yes, but their bodies cannot be considered dead, either. Otherwise, what is the difference between any regular person who dies and a shaheed?

I guess I'll just have to agree to disagree with Mr. M.Ilyaas. seeing as though many of the Mufasireen of the past have said that their bodies are dead, while their souls are alive.

I already told you the difference, and it was in the statement of of al-Qurtubi in that the difference between a shaheed and a non shaheed Mumin is that one is given rizq by Allah, and they are alive in jannah in a way different than those who weren't given the same reward...

A regular person that dies, regardless of whether he is a shaheed or not has the windows of jannah or jahannam open into his grave. In order to feel such things, the soul has to be alive - this is the life of barzakh. Right but are they all birds flying around jannah, given rizq specifically told to them by Allah?

And the ayah I posed does indicate that it is not the same as the life of the hereafter since everyone of us, when we die, are alive in barzakh but we have broken our bond with this world completely. When a shaheed or a nabi dies, they are still considered alive but we cannot tell or say that they are dead.
Well some of the greatest ulama to exist, and those specialized in tafseer have disagreed with you.

And please if you have anyone from among the ulama of the past who have said that it's not permissible to say that the Prophet is dead (meaning in dunya) please come forward with your proof.

What I've heard from many Ahle Hadees is that the shuhada are dead and the anbiya عليهم السلام are dead - نعوذ با الله من ذلك. So Al-Qurtubi is Ahle Hadees?

We cannot make such statements as it is against the Qur'an's commandment. No one denies that the shuhada or the anbiya عليهم السلام can die or can be killed. But their dying or being killed does not lead to death. Their bodies are not dead, but we cannot perceive this - as the Qur'an states ولكن لا تشعرون. So death does not equal death? Dying does not mean death? I'm lost, it's as if you can use your intellect all day long when it comes to the attributes of Allah, but the moment something goes against what one of your scholars say even though it makes absolutely no sense, doesn't agree with the scholars of tafseer (thus far) and is against other verses/ahadith, you completely rid yourself of common sense.

You are saying that they are dead, but not dead... Or rather they died, but didn't die... Does that mean they are alive in the Dunya sense?


Another point was brought up that our souls cannot engage in prayer (this was in a different video). Rasoolullah saw Musa praying in his grave, providing more proof that he was alive in his grave. Are you saying the Prophets are physically alive, living, eating, sleeping, etc in their grave? or what? If they were not really going to die, what's the point of getting into the grave, why not just have them stay in their rooms forever, or be with us forever? Why did the Prophet suffer on his death bed and have sakhratul mawt, if he wasn't going to be maat?

Is this not something from 'ilm al-ghayb that we shouldn't delve into? Isn't this something Mutaashabih, in which Allah said:

It is He who has sent down to you, [O Muhammad], the Book; in it are verses [that are] precise - they are the foundation of the Book - and others unspecific. As for those in whose hearts is deviation [from truth], they will follow that of it which is unspecific, seeking discord and seeking an interpretation [suitable to them]. And no one knows its [true] interpretation except Allah . But those firm in knowledge say, "We believe in it. All [of it] is from our Lord." And no one will be reminded except those of understanding.