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Old 09-04-2012, 03:56 AM   #2
Terinalo

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Asslamo Allaikum All,

Whats wrong with this conversation? Can anyone point the errors out?




Salafi: What is your belief about the attributes of Allah (SWT)?

Non-Salafi: I profess the same belief about the attributes of Allah (SWT) which I was taught as a child

آمَنتُ بِاللہ کَمَا ھُو بِاسمَائھِ وَصِفَاتِھِ وَقَبلتُ جَمِیع اَحکَامِھِ

I have faith in Allah (SWT) as He is known by His (beautiful) Names and (lofty) Attributes and I accept all His commands.

Salafi: What is your belief about the Wajh, Yad, Saq of Allah (SWT)?

Non-Salafi: I accept that Allah (SWT) has Wajh, Yaq, Saq and consign its true meaning to Allah (SWT). Only Allah (SWT) knows what they exactly and precisely mean. I confirm all of the attributes which Allah (SWT) has confirmed for himself in the Qur'aan and also confirm those which have been authentically tranmissed to us through Sayyidina Muhammad (Sallaho Alaihe Wassallam).

Salafi: Do you deny their apparent meanings?

Non-Salafi: I explicitly deny any resemblance of Allah (SWT) to the creation as stated in the Qur’aan:

لَيۡسَ كَمِثۡلِهِۦ شَىۡءٌ۬*ۖ وَهُوَ ٱلسَّمِيعُ ٱلۡبَصِيرُ

[42:11] Nothing is like Him. And He is the All-Hearing, the All-Seeing.

Salafi: Do you deny that they have a meaning?

Non-Salafi: How can I deny that they have a meaning and then say “I consign their meaning to Allah (SWT)”? That ‘s an oxymoron, don’t you think?

Salafi: Do you consider yourself Ashari, Maturidi, Athari or Salafi?

Non-Salafi: I consider myself what Allah (SWT) has declared me in the Qur’aan:

هُوَ سَمَّٮٰكُمُ ٱلۡمُسۡلِمِينَ مِن قَبۡلُ وَفِى هَـٰذَا
[22:78]…He (Allah) named you as Muslims, earlier and also in this (Qur‘an)…

What these names mean and what they entail you have to take this question to people who are knowledgeable in these matters.

Salafi: But what do these attributes mean?

Non-Salafi: I affirm my belief in them, reject any resemblance to the creation and consign their exact and true meaning to Allah (SWT). If you can describe them to me perhaps it will help us discuss their meanings.

Salafi: I consign their description to Allah (SWT)

Non-Salafi: I consign their meaning and description both to Allah (SWT), rejecting any resemblance with the creation, without denying that they have a meaning.

Non-Salafi: Can I ask you a question?

Salafi: Sure, brother.

Non-Salafi: Can you show me evidence from the Qur’aan and the Sunnah and from the life of the Salaf where a Muslim was put to questioning after he declared his belief in the attributes of Allah (SWT), negated any resemblance to the creation and consigned their true and exact meanings and description to Allah (SWT) without denying that they actually have a meaning?

Salafi: Asslamo Allaikum Wa Rahmatullahi Wa Barakatuh

Non-Salafi: Wa-Salam Wa Rahmatullahi Wa Barakatuh
Dear Brother Muad, Assalaamoalaikum.

I find all the answers full of wisdom. This is exactly how one should answer such questions. I personally see no error in the answers given.

Brotherly yours
farook
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