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**9V4i8xw1** · 09-04-2012, 03:56 AM

could you please tell me what did i force into your mouth ?

many new people come here, attracted by the name of this sitem to learn their deen. these are not stagnant forums. even some people do change their mind when they think about things after sometime. nothing is more important than tawheed of our Ilaah. they should do hard to learn and implement it.

but i agree that one must not stuck here forever.

and what a comparison of 'your presumed' salafi inquisition with that of spanish christian inquisition ? great.

Bismillah,

I think my brother Muadh is referring to the Salafi method of making Takfeer on anyone who denies their ideology by cornering them into 'submission'. For example, inventing 5 forms of Shirk and then accusing a Shaykh of all 5 of them (This is how Muhammad ibn Abdul Wahhab 'rolled'). Or constantly asking a Muslim theological questions hoping he'll make a mistake eventually and you can pounce on him. You are playing with words here. It reminds me of the man who came to Imam Malik:

From Ja`far ibn `Abd Allah: "We were with Malik when a man came and asked him: ‘O Abu `Abd Allah! "The Merciful is established over the Throne" (20:5): how is He established?’ Nothing affected Malik as much as that man’s question. He looked at the ground and started prodding it with a twig he held in his hand until he was completely soaked in sweat. Then he lifted his head and said: ‘The "how" of it is inconceivable; the "establishment" part of it is not unknown; belief in it is obligatory; asking about it is an innovation; and I believe that you are a man of innovation.’ Then he gave an order and the man was led out."

09-04-2012, 03:56 AM	#10
9V4i8xw1 Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 481 Senior Member	could you please tell me what did i force into your mouth ? many new people come here, attracted by the name of this sitem to learn their deen. these are not stagnant forums. even some people do change their mind when they think about things after sometime. nothing is more important than tawheed of our Ilaah. they should do hard to learn and implement it. but i agree that one must not stuck here forever. and what a comparison of 'your presumed' salafi inquisition with that of spanish christian inquisition ? great. Bismillah, I think my brother Muadh is referring to the Salafi method of making Takfeer on anyone who denies their ideology by cornering them into 'submission'. For example, inventing 5 forms of Shirk and then accusing a Shaykh of all 5 of them (This is how Muhammad ibn Abdul Wahhab 'rolled'). Or constantly asking a Muslim theological questions hoping he'll make a mistake eventually and you can pounce on him. You are playing with words here. It reminds me of the man who came to Imam Malik: From Ja`far ibn `Abd Allah: "We were with Malik when a man came and asked him: ‘O Abu `Abd Allah! "The Merciful is established over the Throne" (20:5): how is He established?’ Nothing affected Malik as much as that man’s question. He looked at the ground and started prodding it with a twig he held in his hand until he was completely soaked in sweat. Then he lifted his head and said: ‘The "how" of it is inconceivable; the "establishment" part of it is not unknown; belief in it is obligatory; asking about it is an innovation; and I believe that you are a man of innovation.’ Then he gave an order and the man was led out."
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