where did i claim anything. these are bayyenat : 1) you say that nobody but Allah knows the meanng of sifat (where there is ikhtilaf ). 2) asha'irah make ta'weel i.e they interpret those sifat. i said that you should refute them as well because they interpreting those sifat. you objected that i should bring the definition of ta'weel from salaf. i said that 1) as per my knowledge it means to explain or divert the dhahir. 2) please correct me if i am wrong. 3) and i will try to bring the definition of it from acceptable sources. show some backbone and correct me.