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**evalayCap** · 09-04-2012, 02:57 AM

People who are not even fulfilling the faraaidh should definitely look at themselves before criticizing others. As for women, the reason many scholars do not recommend women from coming to the masajid for salah is that it is unnecessary and that there is much more reward for a woman to pray within her home. It is also not that women are the cause of fitnah when they come to the masajid for salah; it is that the outside environment is a fitnah for women. That is why the ulama recommend women to not leave their houses without necessity and without their mahrams. But, the masajid should have a section for women when there are lectures and women should be allowed to come and listen, albeit from the women's section.

Also, the partition policy that Umar instated was carried over by the other khulafa as well. And not just Umar , but 'Aisha was also displeased by the women attending the masajid, making a distinction between how women behaved during the time of Rasoolullah and how they were behaving after he passed away. And these are the women of the best of generations. If the sahaba had issues with women coming to the masajid for salah, especially when there was no partition, then who are we to demand that women must be able to attend a masjid? If there is a partition and if women come with their mahrams, sure. But, if there is no partition, I think it is ridiculous to demand women to be able to come to the masjid.

This is all true, but at the end of the day it is basically an issue of Fiqh with Hanafis very much following on this line of thought and some other Muslims, including some of the Malikis holding a different view, i.e. that Masjid should ideally have space and facilities for women

A lot of women are unable to learn from works like Behishti Zewar etc due to motivational factors and other reasons, because of this

there are a lot of Muslim women who are very ignorant of Islam as first their family and then their husband have been good at protecting them from non-mahrams....but not at getting them an Islamic education...

as a result they may fail to practice the essentials of the religion because they are ignorant of them or of their importance and they often fall into superstitions and wrong beliefs.

During the life of Sheikh Uthman ibn Fodio (ra) he initially caused some controversy in West Africa by encouraging the Muslim women to come and learn Islamic knowledge at his talks and those of his representatives,

but before hand many of them did not even know correct Aqeedah or the basic practices of Islam, afterwards many of them became very learned as a result and were able to pass on what they had learned to other Muslim women.

As you say however, it is good for there to be a partition.

09-04-2012, 02:57 AM	#36
evalayCap Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 438 Senior Member	People who are not even fulfilling the faraaidh should definitely look at themselves before criticizing others. As for women, the reason many scholars do not recommend women from coming to the masajid for salah is that it is unnecessary and that there is much more reward for a woman to pray within her home. It is also not that women are the cause of fitnah when they come to the masajid for salah; it is that the outside environment is a fitnah for women. That is why the ulama recommend women to not leave their houses without necessity and without their mahrams. But, the masajid should have a section for women when there are lectures and women should be allowed to come and listen, albeit from the women's section. Also, the partition policy that Umar instated was carried over by the other khulafa as well. And not just Umar , but 'Aisha was also displeased by the women attending the masajid, making a distinction between how women behaved during the time of Rasoolullah and how they were behaving after he passed away. And these are the women of the best of generations. If the sahaba had issues with women coming to the masajid for salah, especially when there was no partition, then who are we to demand that women must be able to attend a masjid? If there is a partition and if women come with their mahrams, sure. But, if there is no partition, I think it is ridiculous to demand women to be able to come to the masjid. This is all true, but at the end of the day it is basically an issue of Fiqh with Hanafis very much following on this line of thought and some other Muslims, including some of the Malikis holding a different view, i.e. that Masjid should ideally have space and facilities for women A lot of women are unable to learn from works like Behishti Zewar etc due to motivational factors and other reasons, because of this there are a lot of Muslim women who are very ignorant of Islam as first their family and then their husband have been good at protecting them from non-mahrams....but not at getting them an Islamic education... as a result they may fail to practice the essentials of the religion because they are ignorant of them or of their importance and they often fall into superstitions and wrong beliefs. During the life of Sheikh Uthman ibn Fodio (ra) he initially caused some controversy in West Africa by encouraging the Muslim women to come and learn Islamic knowledge at his talks and those of his representatives, but before hand many of them did not even know correct Aqeedah or the basic practices of Islam, afterwards many of them became very learned as a result and were able to pass on what they had learned to other Muslim women. As you say however, it is good for there to be a partition.
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