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Old 09-04-2012, 02:56 AM   #24
yK2VgoEI

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Default Affilaiting wth Ahbash / Habashis
Assalaam wa3alaykom ya akhwaani,

I am someone who (from what i gathered searching previous posts) am what most people would call a Habashi. Alhumdulillaah, I do not get offended from such a term as it merely indicates who my "teacher" is. By teacher, i mean I am learning from someone who the great Shaykh Abdullaah Al-Harririy Al-Habashi (may Allaah have mercy on him) taught with his own mouth. After saying this, and reading previous posts on matters of 'Aqidah, Tawassul, Fiqh and so on, I can only muster that the majority of people on this website are from Ahlussunna. Alhumdulillaah! Also, after reading such posts on he matters of the Ahbash, i have seen many accusations that the Ahbash are also out of he fold of ahlussuna! I tried not to get offended, but i couldnt help myself.

After getting knowledge from many shuyukh who are affiliates of Ahlusunna and then also learning from the Ahbash, i could not find one difference in accordance to the Ash'ari 'aqidah, shafi'i fiqh and i'm sure you know the rest as m sure youve read before.

So my question is this, how can the teach allthe same principle as yourselves, everyone else who from the Sunnah but be ouside their fold? Because they are "extreme" in takfir against the mujassimah? I find this very erraneous as we all know te stance the main scholars of Ahlusunna took on this matter.

Is it because they are against the other shuyukh of Ahlusunna who do not do enough to stamp out the mujassimah. I myelf, have heard straight from the mouth of a student of Shaykh Nuh Keller, tht the mujassimah should not be declared as disbelievers because they say say the shahada and this suffices. Whether they do tajseem or not is besides the point. Hmmm, i also find this erraneous as this classifies the scholars as incorrect. Then, after reading many online statements from Shaykh Nuh Keller himself, i realised he is COMPLETELY against these mujassimeen but will not go far enough to classify it as blasphemy. Why is this?

I am in no way saying Shaykh Nuh Keller is a blasphemer and believe me when I say this, nor do any of the Ahbash as I actually raised this issue with them 2 weeks ago. They, as the shaykh put it, merely disappointed that their Ahlusunna brothes are so lenient towards them. He notes that he realises Shaykh Nuh Keller is against them, but is upset by the fact that they are left stranded taking on this "war" on their own when ahulsunna is the majority of this ummah and cant do so much more. I like Shaykh Nuh Keller and am constanly reading his articles, but cannot undrstand how he disagrees with the mujasimah, says it is completely an incorrect belief, but to classify them a blasphemer is extreme? I may be such a laymen that I cannot understand his method. I hope to gain clarification on hs issue here and other forums as I will be posting this there as well.
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