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**ViagraFeller** · 09-04-2012, 03:57 AM

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How many users have a very deep desire to see Islamic moral values influencing and inspiring the people of the west? We failed twice militarily to penetrate the gates of vienna and Islam through most of its existence has failed to penetrate the western mind despite in their existence orientalists who have done detailed studies and commentary on the religion for their lay to understand. As our duty continues to spread this global message, how can we convince the westerners that Islam is their salvation, their goodness and the serenity treasure of the mind/soul which they have been missing.
I think you are mistaken if you think orientalists studied Islam because they had a genuine desire to learn the truth. They learnt it so they could use it to corrupt the Muslims and colonize us. Some of them will praise aspects of Islam but say it is now a 'spent force' which should be integrated into the newer and better way that they follow. Muslim communities in the west need to sort themselves out...this will be a dawa in itself. Imagine if Muslim areas have zero crime, zero conflict and if all Muslims simply live honest hard working lives, not ripping anyone off, not harming anyone etc. Caring for the elderly, the young, the sick as a community...even making the street look clean and tidy. This will be the best dawa.

Indonesians embraced Islam by meeting Muslims through trade and commerce. An honest business person in an age of lies and greed is like a beacon of light.

09-04-2012, 03:57 AM	#24
ViagraFeller Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 585 Senior Member	=mubakr;809235] How many users have a very deep desire to see Islamic moral values influencing and inspiring the people of the west? We failed twice militarily to penetrate the gates of vienna and Islam through most of its existence has failed to penetrate the western mind despite in their existence orientalists who have done detailed studies and commentary on the religion for their lay to understand. As our duty continues to spread this global message, how can we convince the westerners that Islam is their salvation, their goodness and the serenity treasure of the mind/soul which they have been missing. I think you are mistaken if you think orientalists studied Islam because they had a genuine desire to learn the truth. They learnt it so they could use it to corrupt the Muslims and colonize us. Some of them will praise aspects of Islam but say it is now a 'spent force' which should be integrated into the newer and better way that they follow. Muslim communities in the west need to sort themselves out...this will be a dawa in itself. Imagine if Muslim areas have zero crime, zero conflict and if all Muslims simply live honest hard working lives, not ripping anyone off, not harming anyone etc. Caring for the elderly, the young, the sick as a community...even making the street look clean and tidy. This will be the best dawa. Indonesians embraced Islam by meeting Muslims through trade and commerce. An honest business person in an age of lies and greed is like a beacon of light.
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