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**rhybrisee** · 09-04-2012, 03:57 AM

I'd be willing to bet that the "vast majority" of Muslims never heard of Harun Yahya.

Can you tell me what exactly about Harun Yahya books make for compelling dawah, and how much of that isn't also available on Christian creationist and missionary websites?

Kuffar may have good akhlaq, but they have no noor with them. This is not a logical thing. But it happens. People are attracted to the muttaqeen. It's a spiritual thing. Why did the Arabs believe in Nabi ? Because of his perfect akhlaq and his truthfulness, as well as the beauty of the quran. The other form of dawah in the time of the Prophet was through conquest.

Anyway, isn't this getting off-topic? Your argument was, I think, that presenting a watered-down version of Islam makes for better dawah. I still don't see how that would work for reasons I already mentioned.

PS Unlike the "vast majority" of Muslims, I majored in both philosophy and bio. I think if I didn't have that background, I would probably find Harun Yahya's pseudo-intellectual works more appealing.

1. Betting is haram. I advise you to stay away inshAllah.

2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drq1OB-siQE

3. Attraction. I am attracted to beautiful women and sometimes feel many non-muslim females are innocent but I dont follow their religion because it is unsound and doesnot resonate with conscience. But if I can convince all those beautiful women in the west that Islam is the most perfectly reasonable thing to follow and it shows great love, compassion, charitability and selflessness without talking about cutting off heads, bigotry, women-discrimination and condemnin music I am sure they will all come to Islam. I am talking about women because you said people are attracted to a certain people and should thus follow them.

4. Yes watered-out of the ambiguities, bigotry and confusion which some people like to mix it with.

5. Being a westerner doesnt mean the whole west is like you. I cant challenge atheism because of a single atheists belief system. I have to understand the general ideology and culture of atheists and approach them accordingly. I am talking about westerners in general. Psuedo-intellectual is a descriptive phrase regularly used by atheists against harun yahya. Dont do that for it shows you are using their arguments against one of our own.

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rhybrisee Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 398 Senior Member	I'd be willing to bet that the "vast majority" of Muslims never heard of Harun Yahya. Can you tell me what exactly about Harun Yahya books make for compelling dawah, and how much of that isn't also available on Christian creationist and missionary websites? Kuffar may have good akhlaq, but they have no noor with them. This is not a logical thing. But it happens. People are attracted to the muttaqeen. It's a spiritual thing. Why did the Arabs believe in Nabi ? Because of his perfect akhlaq and his truthfulness, as well as the beauty of the quran. The other form of dawah in the time of the Prophet was through conquest. Anyway, isn't this getting off-topic? Your argument was, I think, that presenting a watered-down version of Islam makes for better dawah. I still don't see how that would work for reasons I already mentioned. PS Unlike the "vast majority" of Muslims, I majored in both philosophy and bio. I think if I didn't have that background, I would probably find Harun Yahya's pseudo-intellectual works more appealing. 1. Betting is haram. I advise you to stay away inshAllah. 2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drq1OB-siQE 3. Attraction. I am attracted to beautiful women and sometimes feel many non-muslim females are innocent but I dont follow their religion because it is unsound and doesnot resonate with conscience. But if I can convince all those beautiful women in the west that Islam is the most perfectly reasonable thing to follow and it shows great love, compassion, charitability and selflessness without talking about cutting off heads, bigotry, women-discrimination and condemnin music I am sure they will all come to Islam. I am talking about women because you said people are attracted to a certain people and should thus follow them. 4. Yes watered-out of the ambiguities, bigotry and confusion which some people like to mix it with. 5. Being a westerner doesnt mean the whole west is like you. I cant challenge atheism because of a single atheists belief system. I have to understand the general ideology and culture of atheists and approach them accordingly. I am talking about westerners in general. Psuedo-intellectual is a descriptive phrase regularly used by atheists against harun yahya. Dont do that for it shows you are using their arguments against one of our own.
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