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**attractiveweb** · 09-04-2012, 02:57 AM

Chittick’s book is a translation with commentary and Shaykh Nuh gushed over Arberry’s translation when there exists many respected English translations by Muslims. In fact, translating the Quran is not simply translation is it? Considering the nature of Quranic Arabic and the skill it requires when rendering it into English( while attempting to maintain rhythmic flow), competence strikes me as a rather limited word to use in regards to Arberry. He is a respected Scholar of Islam and would be called Kuffar by many of you. Anyway, question: if someone like an Arberry helps to strengthen the Islam of many Muslims but is not a Muslim, is his fate the same as someone who is not sympathetic to Islam at all?

Fair enough, they are very skilled translators.

I don't want to speak about Arberry specifically, because I don't know his specific situation. So I'll make the following general statement instead.

Being sympathetic to Islam and helping Muslims is good, but being Muslim is the standard for eternal salvation. So a non-Muslim (assuming he or she received the message of Islam) who has a soft spot for Islam might have a less severe fate in the afterlife than someone who is an outright enemy to Islam, but the fate will still be very bad.

09-04-2012, 02:57 AM	#1
attractiveweb Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 372 Senior Member	Chittick’s book is a translation with commentary and Shaykh Nuh gushed over Arberry’s translation when there exists many respected English translations by Muslims. In fact, translating the Quran is not simply translation is it? Considering the nature of Quranic Arabic and the skill it requires when rendering it into English( while attempting to maintain rhythmic flow), competence strikes me as a rather limited word to use in regards to Arberry. He is a respected Scholar of Islam and would be called Kuffar by many of you. Anyway, question: if someone like an Arberry helps to strengthen the Islam of many Muslims but is not a Muslim, is his fate the same as someone who is not sympathetic to Islam at all? Fair enough, they are very skilled translators. I don't want to speak about Arberry specifically, because I don't know his specific situation. So I'll make the following general statement instead. Being sympathetic to Islam and helping Muslims is good, but being Muslim is the standard for eternal salvation. So a non-Muslim (assuming he or she received the message of Islam) who has a soft spot for Islam might have a less severe fate in the afterlife than someone who is an outright enemy to Islam, but the fate will still be very bad.
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