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**Asianunta** · 09-04-2012, 03:56 AM

what do you plan on doing for the ummah then chanda? Do you have a better plan than the ihkwanul muslimeen? Or will you just go around criticising other muslims on internet forums and then feel you've done your duty in serving the ummah?

We shouldn't see it as criticism but thoughts built upon the reality.
Reality is that the Arab Spring (started as genuine protests against regimes) was quickly hijacked by the West, in particular US.
The US mobilised the Youth Movements which she created/funded herself. These movements were quickly mobilised by slogans such as freedom and democracy which all fit into the Greater Middle East Initiative (GMEI).
The GMEI was devised in 2004 after the US realised it's failure of creating a beacon of democracy in Iraq which they thought would lead to a domino affect throughtout the Middle East i.e. out with the old leaders and in with the new.

As part of the GMEI the West along with those who promote her plans have been promoting the Turkish model of government which is nothing but a secular state. The struggle in Turkey today is between the government and the military where the military should play no part in politics leading to a civilian/democratic state. This is the same game being played in Egypt but with less success at the moment.
Is it any surprise that the US has welcomed and greeted the Ikhwaan and Mursi as rulers of Egypt? The likes of Mursi and Ganouchi appeal to the masses due to their Islamic rhetoric because as muslims our call is Islam but what they are doing has nothing to do with the Shariah.
Do you really think the US would allow a genuine Islamic leadership based upon the method of the Messenger? Do you think the Messenger (saw) and his noble companions would be pragmatic in their approach to Islam? Do you think the Messenger (saw) and his noble companions would honour and abide the agreements/treaties if they contradicted Islam?
There are many questions we need to ask and link Islam to the reality we live in and only then will we be able to see how the Ummah is being deceived with the plots and plans of the West.

Surely, AbuFatimah, you must have some thoughts on the issue rather than criticising the brother's post for what he considers to be the reality?

Ws.

09-04-2012, 03:56 AM	#11
Asianunta Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 412 Senior Member	what do you plan on doing for the ummah then chanda? Do you have a better plan than the ihkwanul muslimeen? Or will you just go around criticising other muslims on internet forums and then feel you've done your duty in serving the ummah? We shouldn't see it as criticism but thoughts built upon the reality. Reality is that the Arab Spring (started as genuine protests against regimes) was quickly hijacked by the West, in particular US. The US mobilised the Youth Movements which she created/funded herself. These movements were quickly mobilised by slogans such as freedom and democracy which all fit into the Greater Middle East Initiative (GMEI). The GMEI was devised in 2004 after the US realised it's failure of creating a beacon of democracy in Iraq which they thought would lead to a domino affect throughtout the Middle East i.e. out with the old leaders and in with the new. As part of the GMEI the West along with those who promote her plans have been promoting the Turkish model of government which is nothing but a secular state. The struggle in Turkey today is between the government and the military where the military should play no part in politics leading to a civilian/democratic state. This is the same game being played in Egypt but with less success at the moment. Is it any surprise that the US has welcomed and greeted the Ikhwaan and Mursi as rulers of Egypt? The likes of Mursi and Ganouchi appeal to the masses due to their Islamic rhetoric because as muslims our call is Islam but what they are doing has nothing to do with the Shariah. Do you really think the US would allow a genuine Islamic leadership based upon the method of the Messenger? Do you think the Messenger (saw) and his noble companions would be pragmatic in their approach to Islam? Do you think the Messenger (saw) and his noble companions would honour and abide the agreements/treaties if they contradicted Islam? There are many questions we need to ask and link Islam to the reality we live in and only then will we be able to see how the Ummah is being deceived with the plots and plans of the West. Surely, AbuFatimah, you must have some thoughts on the issue rather than criticising the brother's post for what he considers to be the reality? Ws.
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