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**ensuppono** · 09-04-2012, 03:57 AM

it is strange how you think a secular govt such as morsi's can 'bring Muslims community to the religion'.

Define secular and how Morsi fits it, such that it is opposed to bringing Muslims to the religion.

you need shariah for that as well or some giant aspects of it. That is equivalent to saying you need religion to bring people to religion. That is obvious. How do you bring religion to someone who is non-religious ? How to establsih islam at a state level when in prior it is not? Its circular to bring islam to something that's already islam. Bringing islam assumes the prior absence of it at whatever level its being brought.

i discussed this with another MB supporter on this forum and he only got emotional about it. and then US will never let any form of islamic currency, trading happen. it will never allow any form of shariah that could stand against the tyranny of the west in impoverished lands and their hegemony over the world's resources. how will a democratic govt looking towards the west for acceptance and accpeting the UN worldview ever stand up against it or stand up for itself? this is wishful thinking at best. Your assuming what America will allow and will not allow. Secondly, your assuming MB is doing something unislamic because of being forced by America. And plenty of similar assumptions.

then again what does egyptian secularized population's opinion matter? since when did islam started taking the opinions of giant swathes of laymen into account? lets say 60% people in a secularized country do not wasnt shariah. so is shariah automatically become useless for them? When does your opinion matter ?
Lets say your born in that 60% secularized country. What would you do alternate to MB, by which you would bring shariah to the people.

09-04-2012, 03:57 AM	#24
ensuppono Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 386 Senior Member	it is strange how you think a secular govt such as morsi's can 'bring Muslims community to the religion'. Define secular and how Morsi fits it, such that it is opposed to bringing Muslims to the religion. you need shariah for that as well or some giant aspects of it. That is equivalent to saying you need religion to bring people to religion. That is obvious. How do you bring religion to someone who is non-religious ? How to establsih islam at a state level when in prior it is not? Its circular to bring islam to something that's already islam. Bringing islam assumes the prior absence of it at whatever level its being brought. i discussed this with another MB supporter on this forum and he only got emotional about it. and then US will never let any form of islamic currency, trading happen. it will never allow any form of shariah that could stand against the tyranny of the west in impoverished lands and their hegemony over the world's resources. how will a democratic govt looking towards the west for acceptance and accpeting the UN worldview ever stand up against it or stand up for itself? this is wishful thinking at best. Your assuming what America will allow and will not allow. Secondly, your assuming MB is doing something unislamic because of being forced by America. And plenty of similar assumptions. then again what does egyptian secularized population's opinion matter? since when did islam started taking the opinions of giant swathes of laymen into account? lets say 60% people in a secularized country do not wasnt shariah. so is shariah automatically become useless for them? When does your opinion matter ? Lets say your born in that 60% secularized country. What would you do alternate to MB, by which you would bring shariah to the people.
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