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**Pharmaciest** · 09-04-2012, 03:57 AM

And those showing this great authority to criticize at this stage should at the same time put forward the alternate better workable realistic solution for the time right now in Egypt. Mere theoretical bold claims and fantasy utopia built upon simplistic notions with no touch on the ground is useless. The other notion of replacing a tyrant with another Muslim version of tyranny where a few group of people who self label as "Shuraa" and impose wholescale by force their own half learnt notions, is also better not suggested. And finally no conspiracy theories.

When does your opinion matter ?
Lets say your born in that 60% secularized country. What would you do alternate to MB, by which you would bring shariah to the people.

Assalamu-Alaikum,
You mentioned the solution for the time right now in Egypt. However, we shouldn’t look at this situation in isolation, it’s not an Egyptian problem (or Syrian problem, Libyan problem etc.) it is the Ummah’s problem, hence the solution is for the entire Ummah, not just for Egypt alone.

To suggest we need a solution right now in Egypt, would mean you are looking for a quick-fix pragmatic solution. However, this would mean compromising in the Deen. Is this from Islam? Did Muhammad (Saw) establish Islam in this manner?

No – As we already know from the Seerah of the Prophet Muhammad (Saw), when he was offered compromise from the Quraish. Allah (SWT) did not leave any ambiguity in His response to the calls of a merger between Kufr and Iman. The solution can only come when the Muslims on mass in a specific land have reached the level where they are ready to sacrifice everything for Islam, i.e. The Ansar when they gave allegiance to Muhammad (Saw).

What do you mean by ‘no conspiracy theories’, we can only judge by reality. The reality is that we know that there is a Greater Middle East Initiative from the G8 summit in 2004. We saw how they (Mursi, Ghannouchi etc.) played on the emotions of the Muslims by using Islamic slogans to come into power, and after coming into power they’ve changed their colours, by calling for Democracy, Freedoms, Civil State, and Secularism. This proves that their agenda is directly in line with the Greater Middle East Initiative, i.e. Spreading the Turkish model across the Muslim lands.

I’ll look forward to hearing from you Warea.

09-04-2012, 03:57 AM	#33
Pharmaciest Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 426 Senior Member	And those showing this great authority to criticize at this stage should at the same time put forward the alternate better workable realistic solution for the time right now in Egypt. Mere theoretical bold claims and fantasy utopia built upon simplistic notions with no touch on the ground is useless. The other notion of replacing a tyrant with another Muslim version of tyranny where a few group of people who self label as "Shuraa" and impose wholescale by force their own half learnt notions, is also better not suggested. And finally no conspiracy theories. When does your opinion matter ? Lets say your born in that 60% secularized country. What would you do alternate to MB, by which you would bring shariah to the people. Assalamu-Alaikum, You mentioned the solution for the time right now in Egypt. However, we shouldn’t look at this situation in isolation, it’s not an Egyptian problem (or Syrian problem, Libyan problem etc.) it is the Ummah’s problem, hence the solution is for the entire Ummah, not just for Egypt alone. To suggest we need a solution right now in Egypt, would mean you are looking for a quick-fix pragmatic solution. However, this would mean compromising in the Deen. Is this from Islam? Did Muhammad (Saw) establish Islam in this manner? No – As we already know from the Seerah of the Prophet Muhammad (Saw), when he was offered compromise from the Quraish. Allah (SWT) did not leave any ambiguity in His response to the calls of a merger between Kufr and Iman. The solution can only come when the Muslims on mass in a specific land have reached the level where they are ready to sacrifice everything for Islam, i.e. The Ansar when they gave allegiance to Muhammad (Saw). What do you mean by ‘no conspiracy theories’, we can only judge by reality. The reality is that we know that there is a Greater Middle East Initiative from the G8 summit in 2004. We saw how they (Mursi, Ghannouchi etc.) played on the emotions of the Muslims by using Islamic slogans to come into power, and after coming into power they’ve changed their colours, by calling for Democracy, Freedoms, Civil State, and Secularism. This proves that their agenda is directly in line with the Greater Middle East Initiative, i.e. Spreading the Turkish model across the Muslim lands. I’ll look forward to hearing from you Warea.
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