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**rvadipoldkov** · 09-04-2012, 03:56 AM

And we also ask the government to do the same.

this is indeed where ideologies diverge. I have little doubt in mind to opine that Mufti Sahab, in his grand status as Mufti e Azam and head of dar ul uloom karachi, could not say any more than that on this particular line.

though I don't disagree with the notion that he genuinely believes 'asking' would work. yet there are few major flaws in this. may I show you a brief study on those who adopted this path before him:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdbKq...feature=relmfu
and
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX6x5...feature=relmfu (imp)

the basic problem with this apporach, as highlighted in above videos, is adherence to the existing system and acceptance of prevalent worldview which in itself restricts full implementation of Islam - no matter how sincere and pious the implementers may be. we see it everywhere in the islamist democratic governments. what can they really do to dispense the duty they have towards Islam, Shariah and Ummah? that is all I ask. this is what I felt the message was that was given by Ml. Salman Nadwi as well. "cheechray" he called what they are striving for today.

the second problem is that Islamic history , fiqh and the times of khair ul quroon teach us otherwise. one example of Imam Abu Hanfiah (rh) and the revolt against Abbasid Khalifah is enough of a rejoinder.

09-04-2012, 03:56 AM	#3
rvadipoldkov Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 514 Senior Member	And we also ask the government to do the same. this is indeed where ideologies diverge. I have little doubt in mind to opine that Mufti Sahab, in his grand status as Mufti e Azam and head of dar ul uloom karachi, could not say any more than that on this particular line. though I don't disagree with the notion that he genuinely believes 'asking' would work. yet there are few major flaws in this. may I show you a brief study on those who adopted this path before him: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdbKq...feature=relmfu and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX6x5...feature=relmfu (imp) the basic problem with this apporach, as highlighted in above videos, is adherence to the existing system and acceptance of prevalent worldview which in itself restricts full implementation of Islam - no matter how sincere and pious the implementers may be. we see it everywhere in the islamist democratic governments. *what can* they really do to dispense the duty they have towards Islam, Shariah and Ummah?** that is all I ask. this is what I felt the message was that was given by Ml. Salman Nadwi as well. "cheechray" he called what they are striving for today. the second problem is that Islamic history , fiqh and the times of khair ul quroon teach us otherwise. one example of Imam Abu Hanfiah (rh) and the revolt against Abbasid Khalifah is enough of a rejoinder.
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